1/2 live confusing

[mortaleclipse]

Hand 1 - 3 hands in so got no reads

3 limps and I call on button with 67o

flop - T99

checks around and turn brings a 8

BB who has 360$ bets 12 and one of the limpers makes it 45 and he has 300$ behind. I call the 45 and the rest fold, gets back to the BB who ships it in. The guy who made it 45 hmm and awww about it for 5 minuts and mucked now on me? I had the full 200 to start the hand.


Hand 2 - couple limpers and SB makes it 12 and im in the BB with AA, i reraised to 39 all folds to SB who calls.

Flop brings 467 with 2 . SB has been playing pretty straight forward and not gone spazzy. I got 450$ in front of me and he has 280$. Well he ships in the 240 on the

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

Hand 1 - Snap fold.

Hand 2 - Snap call.

[gumbie]

Hand 1 - Snap fold.

Hand 2 - Snap call.

It does seem this easy.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

pokah a pretty simple game

[mortaleclipse]

Hand 1 - Snap fold.

Hand 2 - Snap call.

This is what I did, hand 1 guy showed a bare 9 with K9 afer I folded. Hand 2 I snaped called and he had 777 lol. Guess we all thinking along the same lines then.

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

I'm trying to decide if villain's play in hand 2 was incredibly genius, or one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.

[buckeyes77]

I'm trying to decide if villain's play in hand 2 was incredibly genius, or one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.

Maybe stupid pre-flop and genius post-flop? If I ever called a re-raise like that OOP with low/middle pair and hit top set on the flop, I'm shipping it in everytime and expecting an insta-call.

[Ensano]

assuming you're playing live Hand one shouldn't be such an easy fold... lots of player at out local casino would be more than happy to get AI 3 ways with 92 there...

[ErinJeff]

I had the opposite feeling in both.

1: insta call
2: insta fold

Not much experience live so who knows.

[buckeyes77]

I had the opposite feeling in both.

1: insta call
2: insta fold

Not much experience live so who knows.

In hand 2, what made you want to fold? What do you put him on?

I can only put him on a flush draw (probably A K ), an overpair, or a stone cold bluff all of which I have beat.

Just curious as to why you felt fold was the right play.

[ErinJeff]

In hand 2 I don't see an ABC player instapushing on a draw. If he puts you on an overpair pushing with the set seems a good play here. I can see going the other route too, and it would depend on lots of other factors in real time.

Perhaps "insta fold" is a bit snappish, but I was following DC's lead

[buckeyes77]

Understood, yeah I mean if he hit the set then the push is a great move. If not, then you have him crushed. Tough.

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

Understood, yeah I mean if he hit the set then the push is a great move. If not, then you have him crushed. Tough.

Not really. If you're pushing a set there, you're narrowing your opponent's range so much that you're probably losing value against a ton of hands.

[Jauron]

Villian had no idea how to extract value from second hand, he just got lucky that we had a big enough hand to call. I've seen the insta-push like this on scary boards enough to know they actually only want better hands to call. This is draw often enough to make it tough spot.

[buckeyes77]

Understood, yeah I mean if he hit the set then the push is a great move. If not, then you have him crushed. Tough.

Not really. If you're pushing a set there, you're narrowing your opponent's range so much that you're probably losing value against a ton of hands.

Have to respectfully disagree with you here DC in regard to how far I've narrowed villain's hand. If I'm SB and raise 6xBB and the BB re-raises more than 3x my initial raise of 6xBB, I'm 100% sure in my mind he has one of top 3 pocket pairs with AK as a faint afterthought. If some act of God wills me to call with pocket 7s and I hit my set with two showing on the board to support a flush draw, I'm leading hard into the original raiser no question... yes.. no question and I'm probably pushing my remaining $240 into the $80 pot. If villain has the power to lay down QQ-AA with this board showing, and not to mention my thoroughly disguised play (what player would be able to put me on a set of 7's based on pre-flop?) then I will bow down or think he/she is crazy.

If villain mucks it, I have no choice but to think he had AK or just unsuccessfully tried to steal my raise pre-flop and had garbage.