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2 pair on flushed board

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2 pair on flushed board

Postby Nimradel » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:20 am GMT

I'll admit I'm a bit vague on how to handle side pots for value, so in addition to comments on the hand, any general advice for these situations would be much appreciated.

At this table, I had been generally aggressive and had been getting a lot of folds preflop and to c-bets.

Villain 1. the short stack, was fairly LAGgy but had gone quiet after a couple of beats.
Villain 2 (sugarbear) was tight-weak, hence my flat call preflop.

Villain 2 has only 840 left in his stack. Check or bet the turn here?

PokerStars Game #16972011124: Tournament #85990687, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/04/24 - 22:00:19 (ET)
Table '85990687 2' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Kidam (2135 in chips)
Seat 2: notsolcky (2810 in chips)
Seat 4: sstpie9 (2870 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (7320 in chips)
Seat 6: MichaelW24 (4425 in chips)
Seat 7: sugarbear009 (2010 in chips)
Seat 8: CanUsayBluff (1170 in chips)
Seat 9: thorson (4260 in chips)
CanUsayBluff: posts small blind 100
thorson: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs Th]
Kidam: folds
notsolcky: folds
sstpie9: folds
Hero: raises 400 to 600
MichaelW24: folds
sugarbear009: raises 400 to 1000
CanUsayBluff: raises 170 to 1170 and is all-in
thorson: folds
Hero: calls 570
sugarbear009: calls 170
*** FLOP *** [Td 9d Ad]
Hero: checks
sugarbear009: checks
*** TURN *** [Td 9d Ad] [Qc]
Hero: ??
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Postby ErinJeff » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:26 pm GMT

Given the stack sizes I push this turn. I think a lead-out push does three things after your flop check.

1. It may look like a steal attempt in which case you get called by any A (hopefully not AT, AQ) and it may be perceived as a one card flush draw (K, Q, Jd) in which case a low(er) pocket pair might call.

2. Discourages villain, if he's holding a hi diamond from getting a free card that beats you if you check and he checks behind.

3. In SNGs with one player all-in it is not a good idea to bluff at a 0 side pot, because everyone wants the all-in guy to lose, and therefore, this tells Villain "I have a hand."
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Postby Jauron » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:48 pm GMT

I don't like preflop, sugar has over half his stack in you are committed to 2K if you connect at all with the flop.

Push turn, I'd be surprised if he folded.
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