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4bet pf then an Ahigh flop... plan?

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4bet pf then an Ahigh flop... plan?

Postby Ensano » Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:39 pm GMT

"the 4th bet is always AA or KK".. blah blah blah...

is a cbet here worthwhile on this flop?

POKERSTARS GAME #19488422527: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/08/09 - 16:21:35 (ET)
Table 'Ruchbah' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: smrealms.de ($5.85 in chips)
Seat 2: 08RoushSTG3 ($23.05 in chips)
Seat 3: carrrera ($16.95 in chips)
Seat 4: aceplayer2u ($24.40 in chips)
Seat 5: crisb732002 ($10 in chips)
Seat 6: flugwurst ($23.30 in chips)
Seat 7: Ensano ($23.15 in chips)
Seat 8: zacharias12 ($9.60 in chips)
Seat 9: LeVilleneuve ($15.35 in chips)
aceplayer2u: posts small blind $0.10
crisb732002: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ensano [Qc Qs]
flugwurst: raises $1.25 to $1.50
Ensano: raises $2 to $3.50
zacharias12: folds
LeVilleneuve: folds
smrealms.de: folds
08RoushSTG3: folds
carrrera: folds
aceplayer2u: folds
crisb732002: folds
flugwurst: raises $2.75 to $6.25
Ensano: calls $2.75
*** FLOP *** [7d 2h Ac]
flugwurst: checks
Ensano: checks
*** TURN *** [7d 2h Ac] [2c]
flugwurst: checks
Ensano: checks
*** RIVER *** [7d 2h Ac 2c] [6d]
flugwurst: bets $2
Ensano: ?
Last edited by Ensano on Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:20 pm GMT, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Jauron » Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:36 pm GMT

I'd bet and give up if called.
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Postby Yozman » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:41 pm GMT

rep AK if and give up if called as said
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:02 am GMT

get it in pre. check flop- KK is not folding
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Postby Yozman » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:06 am GMT

i think KK folds here a lot. hero has played alot like AK
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:31 am GMT

If im OOP with AK and call a LRR from a fish OOP and flop an ace, I'll never c/r just bet 3 streets til his whole stack goes in, because they never fold KK or QQ in this situation, and i expect the same here. just my opinion
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Postby kingetje » Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:56 am GMT

this is such a definite check behind.... do NOT bet here. there is no reason to. is it a valuebet? hardly... is it a bluff? perhaps but it wont work. is it for protection? uhh NO.

check behind
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Postby Ensano » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:21 pm GMT

*** FLOP *** [7d 2h Ac]
flugwurst: checks
Ensano: checks
*** TURN *** [7d 2h Ac] [2c]
flugwurst: checks
Ensano: checks
*** RIVER *** [7d 2h Ac 2c] [6d]
flugwurst: bets $2
Ensano: ?


i really think i should've fired a shot at the flop... i think KK fold enough times to make it +EV
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Postby kingetje » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:50 pm GMT

call of course
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:12 pm GMT

what option is there other than call
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Postby ErinJeff » Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:02 pm GMT

That river bet is so weak I would want to raise out of spite.

Just call and expect to see KK or something total bogus like KQs.
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