7CS hi question

[weirdofreek]

This hand has bothered me all night. Fairly new to table, but I have noticed people betting with any two pair.

Hand #45048010-122 at Thu435pm50D-026 (1000/2000 tournament 7-card Stud)
Started at 02/Aug/07 18:46:01

GAMBLINMAN66 is at seat 0 with 22885.
Burton88 is at seat 1 with 50280.
cheerio dust is at seat 2 with 50165.
weirdofreek is at seat 3 with 35875.
Perf is at seat 4 with 20.
Maverick7272 is at seat 5 with 0 (sitting out).
Spanky6644 is at seat 6 with 0 (sitting out).
RenoHoldem is at seat 7 with 57595.
The button is at seat 3.

GAMBLINMAN66 posts ante (200).
Burton88 posts ante (200).
cheerio dust posts ante (200).
weirdofreek posts ante (200).
Perf posts ante (200).
RenoHoldem posts ante (200).

3rd street:

GAMBLINMAN66: -- -- 4h
Burton88: -- -- 7h
cheerio dust: -- -- 2c
weirdofreek: 6h Ah Ac
Perf: -- -- Th
RenoHoldem: -- -- 4c

cheerio dust brings in for 300. weirdofreek raises to
1000. RenoHoldem folds. GAMBLINMAN66 folds.
Burton88 raises to 2000. cheerio dust calls.
weirdofreek re-raises to 3000. Burton88 calls.
cheerio dust calls.

4th street:

Burton88: -- -- 7h 8d
cheerio dust: -- -- 2c Jd
weirdofreek: 6h Ah Ac 7c
Perf: -- -- Th 7s

weirdofreek bets 1000. Burton88 calls. cheerio dust
raises to 2000. weirdofreek calls. Burton88 calls.


5th street:

Burton88: -- -- 7h 8d 5d
cheerio dust: -- -- 2c Jd Ks
weirdofreek: 6h Ah Ac 7c 3c
Perf: -- -- Th 7s 9s

weirdofreek checks. Burton88 checks. cheerio dust
bets 2000. weirdofreek calls. Burton88 calls.

6th street:

Burton88: -- -- 7h 8d 5d 2d
cheerio dust: -- -- 2c Jd Ks 3s
weirdofreek: 6h Ah Ac 7c 3c 3d
Perf: -- -- Th 7s 9s Ts

weirdofreek checks. Burton88 checks. cheerio dust
bets 2000. weirdofreek calls. Burton88 calls.

7th street:

Burton88: -- -- 7h 8d 5d 2d --
cheerio dust: -- -- 2c Jd Ks 3s --
weirdofreek: 6h Ah Ac 7c 3c 3d Qd
Perf: -- -- Th 7s 9s Ts --

weirdofreek checks. Burton88 checks. cheerio dust
bets 2000. weirdofreek calls. Burton88 folds.



Showdown:

cheerio dust shows Js Jc 2s 2c Jd Ks 3s.
cheerio dust has Jc 2s 2c Jd Js: full house, jacks full of deuces.
weirdofreek shows Ah Qd 6h Ac 7c 3c 3d.
weirdofreek has Ah Ac 3c 3d Qd: two pair, aces and threes.
Perf mucks cards.
(Perf has 9d 8h 6d Th 7s 9s Ts.)


Hand #45048010-122 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
cheerio dust wins the main pot 120 with full house, jacks full of deuces.
cheerio dust wins the side pot 31900 with full house, jacks full of deuces.
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[xDiamond_CutteRx]

Not sure I was reading the format properly... was the "Perf" player all-in? He doesn't have action on any street.

Looks like your standard type of cooler. You probably lost the minimum by slowing down as much as you did. Since the raiser didn't have a pair showing, it's hard to put him on trips.

[MrDarling]

First, its sucks you couldn't reduce the field. In such a big field your 1 pair is not that strong and it was wise to slow down. (As you can see, you were beaten by both anyway)

Now as for the hand, its pretty possible you were in fact leading most of the way. As you can see for the way PS shows YOUR hand, they do in fact change the order of the hole cards. So it is possible villain caught his last J on the river to bust you.

btw, am not that great in Stud. But isn't it better to 3bet 4th street?
The betting is still small and you would like to reduce the field. Also, its time to tell everyone you really do have A's.
if he raises, you can consider folding 5th UI.

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

Agree on the bet/fold line on 5th.

I probably raise 6th most of the time against standard LL idiots.

[crack]

I play it the same and probably bet/fold 6th. Aces up in this spot is too strong to play so timid, especially if it is a low stakes tournament.

You fold because he can never raise after all this action unless he has you beat.

Yah, you can probably get to showdown for the same amount, but if he only has two pair he just checks behind on 6th, you miss out on 2bb and you give two players the chance to outdraw you for free.