88 from early position with a small M
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88 from early position with a small M
My first real decision as a tourney player.
I've been sat at the same table for 40 minutes. I joined as a late reg, so started with 1,500. Over the last 40 minutes I have folded every hand except AJ, JJ, QQ. I pushed all-in pre flop with these hands got one caller and doubled up every time. Up until 5 minutes ago I had around 11,000 chips. I then re-raise Janinka preflop with AA, he pushes all-in, I call, he shows QQ and hits trips.
So, even though my stack has taken a hit and my M is pretty small, I'm thinking my image is pretty solid.
I then get this hand;
Is pushing all-in from here the right move, or should I play it differently? (4,000 players left, 1,170 get paid, so cashing is still a long way off)
PokerStars Game #33553210905: Tournament #199550515, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2009/10/02 15:45:17 ET
Table '199550515 458' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Tof19Landrin (9760 in chips)
Seat 2: Janinka (10850 in chips)
Seat 3: k5556 (6225 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: joemac17 (20935 in chips)
Seat 5: HangLoose20 (17865 in chips)
Seat 6: Garry_buk (23367 in chips)
Seat 7: LordR (13890 in chips)
Seat 8: jbdb3 (4300 in chips)
Seat 9: VIKINGS2042 (9860 in chips)
Tof19Landrin: posts the ante 25
Janinka: posts the ante 25
k5556: posts the ante 25
joemac17: posts the ante 25
HangLoose20: posts the ante 25
Garry_buk: posts the ante 25
LordR: posts the ante 25
jbdb3: posts the ante 25
VIKINGS2042: posts the ante 25
joemac17: posts small blind 150
HangLoose20: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jbdb3 [8
8
]
Garry_buk: folds
LordR: folds
jbdb3: ?????
I've been sat at the same table for 40 minutes. I joined as a late reg, so started with 1,500. Over the last 40 minutes I have folded every hand except AJ, JJ, QQ. I pushed all-in pre flop with these hands got one caller and doubled up every time. Up until 5 minutes ago I had around 11,000 chips. I then re-raise Janinka preflop with AA, he pushes all-in, I call, he shows QQ and hits trips.
So, even though my stack has taken a hit and my M is pretty small, I'm thinking my image is pretty solid.
I then get this hand;
Is pushing all-in from here the right move, or should I play it differently? (4,000 players left, 1,170 get paid, so cashing is still a long way off)
PokerStars Game #33553210905: Tournament #199550515, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2009/10/02 15:45:17 ET
Table '199550515 458' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Tof19Landrin (9760 in chips)
Seat 2: Janinka (10850 in chips)
Seat 3: k5556 (6225 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: joemac17 (20935 in chips)
Seat 5: HangLoose20 (17865 in chips)
Seat 6: Garry_buk (23367 in chips)
Seat 7: LordR (13890 in chips)
Seat 8: jbdb3 (4300 in chips)
Seat 9: VIKINGS2042 (9860 in chips)
Tof19Landrin: posts the ante 25
Janinka: posts the ante 25
k5556: posts the ante 25
joemac17: posts the ante 25
HangLoose20: posts the ante 25
Garry_buk: posts the ante 25
LordR: posts the ante 25
jbdb3: posts the ante 25
VIKINGS2042: posts the ante 25
joemac17: posts small blind 150
HangLoose20: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jbdb3 [8
Garry_buk: folds
LordR: folds
jbdb3: ?????
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jimmer - Moderator
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Re: 88 from early position with a small M
Ship. Folding is bad with antes, and you can't raise any other amount really.
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xDiamond_CutteRx - Moderator
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Re: 88 from early position with a small M
If you have been shipping every hand you have played and always shown down the goodies then I guess you should just ship again. Personally I would just raise it 2.5xbb. I think 14bbs is a bit too much for me to open shove, but who knows, it's a $3 tourney so you prolly get called a lot by worse or hands that ur flippin with.
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crack - Posts: 2071
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Re: 88 from early position with a small M
jimmer wrote:cashing is still a long way off
There's your answer. No sense playing cautiously since you're not around some bubble event. Should be willing to get it in with a lot less than that.
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golddog - Tournament Champion
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Re: 88 from early position with a small M
I dont mind raise/calling here. I think open shoving isn't horrible, but ya know, at least u have a chance of folding here if theres sick action behind you. I might make it 775 then fold if theres 2 re-raises behind you, heads up, in this low a buy in, I probably go with it though. At least this way you give someone a chance with some smaller pairs to do something silly vs u aswell.
Plus by raising, some of the time one of the blinds will call and thats not bad really, in position with 88, most flops you're happy to go with neway,so no tough decision.
Plus by raising, some of the time one of the blinds will call and thats not bad really, in position with 88, most flops you're happy to go with neway,so no tough decision.
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Ciso_B - Online MTT God
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Re: 88 from early position with a small M
I thought about it, does anyone like a stop-and-go, if, as Ciso allows for, the action behind isn't crazy and the flop isn't something horrible for us?
I might go this way, at least sometimes.
I might go this way, at least sometimes.
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golddog - Tournament Champion
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Re: 88 from early position with a small M
u cant make a stopngo in an unopened pot
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