A couple questions
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A couple questions
#1:
The big blind is eliminated...Is there any compensation for the next guy skipping his normal big blind on the next hand?
#2:
Can an undisputed winner reveal his cards to a single player or is he required to show the whole table if he shows at all?
Thanks,
Ace
The big blind is eliminated...Is there any compensation for the next guy skipping his normal big blind on the next hand?
#2:
Can an undisputed winner reveal his cards to a single player or is he required to show the whole table if he shows at all?
Thanks,
Ace
- acekracker
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I don't understand the first question sorry but as far as showing your cards, if everyone else folds to your bet, you don't have to show your cards. If you choose to show your hand to the guy next to you then I've never seen any rules saying you can't do that. Of course you're going to catch some shit from the others but if they wanted to see so bad they could have payed.
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ballbp - Posts: 1007
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#1 If the big blind is eliminated, there is still a big blind next time but no small blind so I don't really understand either
#2 House rules apply here I guess, we always allowed any1 to show whoever they pleased if they were the winner but I can see how this would upset some.
#2 House rules apply here I guess, we always allowed any1 to show whoever they pleased if they were the winner but I can see how this would upset some.
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HalfSugar - King Moderator
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on the showing cards... I believe it must be house rules (or tourny rules)...
in the recent "ladies only" tournament for the WSOP, there was a hand where one of them showed only the player they beat and the announcer was sure to announce it to all..
there was discussion on it and they stated there was a standing rule "show one, show all"
in the recent "ladies only" tournament for the WSOP, there was a hand where one of them showed only the player they beat and the announcer was sure to announce it to all..
there was discussion on it and they stated there was a standing rule "show one, show all"
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BrianGre - Posts: 254
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at the casinos I play at...show one show all. You can do it discreetly, or hold flip them so someone can see them as you fold, and they wont likely say anything. But if you make it obvious, the dealer may turn your cards over on the table and show everyone or any player can ask to see them and they must be shown.
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Dave B - Tournament Champion
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#1 clarification
So, for the hand after the big blind was eliminated the small blind guy did not have to post a big blind for the given trip around the table.
Does he owe the pot the big blind he missed?
Does he owe the pot the big blind he missed?
- acekracker
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let's clarify this one a bit just to be sure...I think you mean this:
Hand #45
P1 has button
P2 posts SB
P3 posts BB
P4
P5
after hand #45, P4 is out (due to a bad beat draw
)
Hand #46
P2 has button
P3 posts SB
P5 posts BB
P1
However if the P3 had been eliminated I believe it would be like this:
Hand #46
P2 has button
P4 posts BB
P5
P1
and there would be no SB...
Anyone else take a stab at it?
Hand #45
P1 has button
P2 posts SB
P3 posts BB
P4
P5
after hand #45, P4 is out (due to a bad beat draw
Hand #46
P2 has button
P3 posts SB
P5 posts BB
P1
However if the P3 had been eliminated I believe it would be like this:
Hand #46
P2 has button
P4 posts BB
P5
P1
and there would be no SB...
Anyone else take a stab at it?
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BrianGre - Posts: 254
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On the subject of one of the blinds being eliminated I believe that this is the usual convention:
(1) The player who would have posted BB is eliminated. In this case the player to the left of the eliminated player posts the BB, the payer who would have posted the SB still posts the SB. The button passes one seat to the left as normal.
(2) The player who would have been the SB is eliminated. In this case, the player who would have posted the BB still posts the BB and the hand is played with no SB. The button passes as normal.
(3) The player who would have been the button is eliminated. In this case, the two players who would have posted the SB and the BB still post the SB and the BB. The button DOES NOT MOVE. This is so that nobody misses their turn on either of the blinds and is a great advantage for the buy who deals as he gets the button twice running.
This is the rules in all the casinos I have played and it is also the rule on any poker that I have seen on TV in the UK. I have noticed, however, that it IS NOT the convention on Paradise Poker (the room I usually play online) as PP allows you to miss a big blind if the player to your right (who would have posted SB) is knocked out. To me, this is clearly wrong as no player should get away with only posting 33% of the obligatory bets in any given round.
There is also one more case which causes confusion which is what happens when the game goes heads up. As far as I can tell (but I have never seen this written down anywhere) the rule is that whoever posted the larger compulsory bet on the previous hand has the button for the first head up hand. In heads up the dealer is the SB and the other player is the BB.
(1) The player who would have posted BB is eliminated. In this case the player to the left of the eliminated player posts the BB, the payer who would have posted the SB still posts the SB. The button passes one seat to the left as normal.
(2) The player who would have been the SB is eliminated. In this case, the player who would have posted the BB still posts the BB and the hand is played with no SB. The button passes as normal.
(3) The player who would have been the button is eliminated. In this case, the two players who would have posted the SB and the BB still post the SB and the BB. The button DOES NOT MOVE. This is so that nobody misses their turn on either of the blinds and is a great advantage for the buy who deals as he gets the button twice running.
This is the rules in all the casinos I have played and it is also the rule on any poker that I have seen on TV in the UK. I have noticed, however, that it IS NOT the convention on Paradise Poker (the room I usually play online) as PP allows you to miss a big blind if the player to your right (who would have posted SB) is knocked out. To me, this is clearly wrong as no player should get away with only posting 33% of the obligatory bets in any given round.
There is also one more case which causes confusion which is what happens when the game goes heads up. As far as I can tell (but I have never seen this written down anywhere) the rule is that whoever posted the larger compulsory bet on the previous hand has the button for the first head up hand. In heads up the dealer is the SB and the other player is the BB.
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