a few hands, a little advice

[zinn0]

Here are a few stud hands for the kiddies. Wondering which situations should I raise in, etc. Thanks for any and all advice, crticism, insight, and general ramblings.


Should I have taken command of the pot once my board paired 8's, or did I make the right move by waiting until I made my draw?

PokerStars Game #3118388838: 7 Card Stud Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/11/21 - 12:48:15 (ET)
Table 'Irenaea'
Seat 1: rromeo ($9.15 in chips)
Seat 3: ZigFelt ($5 in chips)
Seat 4: festus estes ($4.15 in chips)
Seat 5: diehard44 ($5.30 in chips)
Seat 6: zinn0 ($2.70 in chips)
Seat 7: Cue&Cushion ($5.50 in chips)
Seat 8: DailyGrind ($33.35 in chips)
rromeo: posts the ante $0.05
ZigFelt: posts the ante $0.05
festus estes: posts the ante $0.05
diehard44: posts the ante $0.05
zinn0: posts the ante $0.05
Cue&Cushion: posts the ante $0.05
DailyGrind: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to rromeo [9d]
Dealt to ZigFelt [Qh]
Dealt to festus estes [Tc]
Dealt to diehard44 [7c]
Dealt to zinn0 [5s 3s 6s]
Dealt to Cue&Cushion [Qd]
Dealt to DailyGrind [7h]
zinn0: brings-in low $0.10
Cue&Cushion: calls $0.10
DailyGrind: folds
rromeo: calls $0.10
ZigFelt: calls $0.10
CASINO13 joins the table at seat #2
festus estes: calls $0.10
diehard44: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to rromeo [9d] [Jh]
Dealt to ZigFelt [Qh] [5h]
Dealt to festus estes [Tc] [8d]
Dealt to zinn0 [5s 3s 6s] [8s]
Dealt to Cue&Cushion [Qd] [Ah]
Cue&Cushion: bets $0.25
rromeo: calls $0.25
DailyGrind is sitting out
ZigFelt: calls $0.25
festus estes: calls $0.25
zinn0: calls $0.25
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to rromeo [9d Jh] [3d]
Dealt to ZigFelt [Qh 5h] [5d]
Dealt to festus estes [Tc 8d] [2h]
Dealt to zinn0 [5s 3s 6s 8s] [8c]
Dealt to Cue&Cushion [Qd Ah] [5c]
zinn0: checks
DailyGrind leaves the table
Cue&Cushion: checks
rromeo: checks
ZigFelt: bets $0.50
festus estes: folds
zinn0: calls $0.50
Cue&Cushion: calls $0.50
rromeo: calls $0.50
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to rromeo [9d Jh 3d] [3c]
Dealt to ZigFelt [Qh 5h 5d] [Th]
Dealt to zinn0 [5s 3s 6s 8s 8c] [Ks]
Dealt to Cue&Cushion [Qd Ah 5c] [7d]
livinlf4me joins the table at seat #8
zinn0: bets $0.50
Cue&Cushion: folds
rromeo: calls $0.50
ZigFelt: calls $0.50
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to zinn0 [5s 3s 6s 8s 8c Ks] [3h]
zinn0: bets $0.50
rromeo: calls $0.50
ZigFelt: calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zinn0: shows [5s 3s 6s 8s 8c Ks 3h] (a flush, King high)
rromeo: mucks hand
ZigFelt: mucks hand


Wondering if I should have tried to be more agressive here...

PokerStars Game #3118374216: 7 Card Stud Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/11/21 - 12:45:19 (ET)
Table 'Irenaea'
Seat 1: rromeo ($9.70 in chips)
Seat 2: flossmore17 ($15.85 in chips)
Seat 4: festus estes ($6.95 in chips)
Seat 6: zinn0 ($5.15 in chips)
Seat 7: Cue&Cushion ($5.45 in chips)
Seat 8: DailyGrind ($29.90 in chips)
rromeo: posts the ante $0.05
flossmore17: posts the ante $0.05
festus estes: posts the ante $0.05
zinn0: posts the ante $0.05
Cue&Cushion: posts the ante $0.05
DailyGrind: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to rromeo [Jh]
Dealt to flossmore17 [2s]
Dealt to festus estes [6d]
Dealt to zinn0 [3d Kd 7d]
Dealt to Cue&Cushion [4c]
Dealt to DailyGrind [Th]
flossmore17: brings-in low $0.10
festus estes: folds
zinn0: calls $0.10
festus estes leaves the table
Cue&Cushion: calls $0.10
DailyGrind: raises $0.15 to $0.25
rromeo: calls $0.25
flossmore17: folds
zinn0: calls $0.15
Cue&Cushion: calls $0.15
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to rromeo [Jh] [8s]
Dealt to zinn0 [3d Kd 7d] [7c]
Dealt to Cue&Cushion [4c] [8d]
Dealt to DailyGrind [Th] [9s]
Pair on board - a double bet is allowed
zinn0: checks
Cue&Cushion: checks
DailyGrind: bets $0.50
rromeo: folds
zinn0: calls $0.50
Cue&Cushion: folds
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to zinn0 [3d Kd 7d 7c] [3s]
Dealt to DailyGrind [Th 9s] [Js]
zinn0: checks
DailyGrind: bets $0.50
zinn0: calls $0.50
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to zinn0 [3d Kd 7d 7c 3s] [2c]
Dealt to DailyGrind [Th 9s Js] [4d]
zinn0: checks
DailyGrind: bets $0.50
zinn0: calls $0.50
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to zinn0 [3d Kd 7d 7c 3s 2c] [4s]
zinn0: checks
DailyGrind: bets $0.50
zinn0: calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DailyGrind: shows [Tc 2d Th 9s Js 4d Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
zinn0: mucks hand


Is this a playable hand?

PokerStars Game #3118351891: 7 Card Stud Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/11/21 - 12:40:49 (ET)
Table 'Irenaea'
Seat 1: rromeo ($11.75 in chips)
Seat 2: flossmore17 ($16.20 in chips)
Seat 4: festus estes ($3.90 in chips)
Seat 6: zinn0 ($5 in chips)
Seat 7: Cue&Cushion ($4.05 in chips)
Seat 8: DailyGrind ($32.60 in chips)
rromeo: posts the ante $0.05
flossmore17: posts the ante $0.05
festus estes: posts the ante $0.05
zinn0: posts the ante $0.05
Cue&Cushion: posts the ante $0.05
DailyGrind: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to rromeo [8h]
Dealt to flossmore17 [2d]
Dealt to festus estes [Ts]
Dealt to zinn0 [9c 7d 8d]
Dealt to Cue&Cushion [4s]
Dealt to DailyGrind [6h]
flossmore17: brings-in low $0.10
festus estes: folds
zinn0: folds


Should I have re-raised here? The pair on his board made me a little nervous and I just weakly called him down.

PokerStars Game #3117995418: 7 Card Stud Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/11/21 - 11:21:42 (ET)
Table 'Irma IV'
Seat 1: alysiaabate ($16.75 in chips)
Seat 2: zinn0 ($4.95 in chips)
Seat 3: edvardok ($2.55 in chips)
Seat 5: GatoKaKa ($24.75 in chips)
alysiaabate: posts the ante $0.05
zinn0: posts the ante $0.05
edvardok: posts the ante $0.05
GatoKaKa: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to alysiaabate [9h]
Dealt to zinn0 [Tc As Jc]
Dealt to edvardok [7h]
Dealt to GatoKaKa [Qs]
edvardok: brings-in low $0.10
GatoKaKa: calls $0.10
alysiaabate: folds
zinn0: calls $0.10
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to zinn0 [Tc As Jc] [9s]
Dealt to edvardok [7h] [2c]
Dealt to GatoKaKa [Qs] [8s]
GatoKaKa: checks
zinn0: checks
edvardok: checks
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to zinn0 [Tc As Jc 9s] [Qc]
Dealt to edvardok [7h 2c] [Jd]
Dealt to GatoKaKa [Qs 8s] [3h]
zinn0: bets $0.50
edvardok: calls $0.50
GatoKaKa: calls $0.50
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to zinn0 [Tc As Jc 9s Qc] [8h]
Dealt to edvardok [7h 2c Jd] [2s]
Dealt to GatoKaKa [Qs 8s 3h] [Kc]
edvardok: checks
GatoKaKa: checks
zinn0: bets $0.50
edvardok: calls $0.50
GatoKaKa: folds
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to zinn0 [Tc As Jc 9s Qc 8h] [4h]
edvardok: checks
zinn0: bets $0.50
edvardok: raises $0.50 to $1
zinn0: calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
edvardok: shows [Th 8d 7h 2c Jd 2s 9c] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
zinn0: shows [Tc As Jc 9s Qc 8h 4h] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
zinn0 collected $4.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5 | Rake $0.20
Seat 1: alysiaabate folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 2: zinn0 showed [Tc As Jc 9s Qc 8h 4h] and won ($4.80) with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 3: edvardok showed [Th 8d 7h 2c Jd 2s 9c] and lost with a straight, Seven to Jack


Do I need to be more agressive with this one? He is showing 7's, but keeps checking and lets me catch up...not sure what to do here.

PokerStars Game #3117977748: 7 Card Stud Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/11/21 - 11:17:30 (ET)
Table 'Irma IV'
Seat 2: zinn0 ($5 in chips)
Seat 3: edvardok ($5 in chips)
Seat 5: GatoKaKa ($27.90 in chips)
zinn0: posts the ante $0.05
edvardok: posts the ante $0.05
thimote: is sitting out
thimote leaves the table
GatoKaKa: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to zinn0 [4c 4d 3s]
Dealt to edvardok [As]
Dealt to GatoKaKa [7h]
exoticbty leaves the table
zinn0: brings-in low $0.10
edvardok: folds
GatoKaKa: calls $0.10
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to zinn0 [4c 4d 3s] [6h]
Dealt to GatoKaKa [7h] [7c]
Pair on board - a double bet is allowed
GatoKaKa: checks
zinn0: checks
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to zinn0 [4c 4d 3s 6h] [8c]
Dealt to GatoKaKa [7h 7c] [Td]
GatoKaKa: checks
zinn0: checks
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to zinn0 [4c 4d 3s 6h 8c] [8d]
Dealt to GatoKaKa [7h 7c Td] [Ks]
zinn0: bets $0.50
GatoKaKa: calls $0.50
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to zinn0 [4c 4d 3s 6h 8c 8d] [Qc]
zinn0: bets $0.50
GatoKaKa: calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zinn0: shows [4c 4d 3s 6h 8c 8d Qc] (two pair, Eights and Fours)
GatoKaKa: mucks hand

[TheSalche]

Oh boy here we go ...

First hand, I think you played it well, the 8 on 5th is kind of unfortunate since it puts you to act first, which means if you go for a check/raise you may miss a round of betting altogether, I would've gone for a check raise on 6th though, both zigfelt and rromeo caught cards that probably helped out their hands (or they're already married to two pair)

Second hand, checking when you have a pair on the board is a big mistake ... even though it doesnt match anything, you should bet here IMO, you've got an overcard + your flush draw. I really dislike check/calling with the weak two pair though, either get more aggressive with it or fold it.

Third hand is almost playable, obviously you're two 'immediate' straight cards are dead, but if you catch a 10 or a 6, all the jacks and fives are still live. Only one of your pair cards is dead, and you have a two flush with only 1 dead card ... I'd play this one to 4th, maybe even to a raise if theres a caller or two. But if you brick 4th, throw the hand away.

Fourth hand, this is kind of player dependent here, but I think calling when you're opponent may have caught a boat is fine. The fact that he brought his hand in means he may or may not have a 7 or a duece in the hole to start with. But I'm a v@gina sometimes.

Fifth hand, bet on 6th is fine, you have a pair bigger than his 7s, he'd need a king or ten in the hole, or a bigger pair to be beating you here ... you may want to check/call the river, but betting is fine too.

[Jernej Zorec]

i say hand 3 stay in for 4th hand and if u get an open ender than u can stay in unless your cards get too dead



man when i saw that i though u gonna show one of my donk plays lol

[zinn0]

man when i saw that i though u gonna show one of my donk plays lol

I didn't see anything 'donkish' from you. Then again, we only played about 15 or 20 hands.

Just kidding. It was nice to actually sit down and recogninze someone from the forum. I've only done that one other time when I bumped into nickhow over at fulltilt.