A7 in the SB, late in a tourney.

[supafrey]

Full Tilt Poker Game #6593990927: Daily Double - B (49405152), Table 49 - 2000/4000 Ante 500 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:11:55 ET - 2008/05/28
Seat 1: pavelzzz (97,860)
Seat 2: zack1991 (35,847)
Seat 3: CLIKITYCLANK (36,679)
Seat 4: smart2510 (305,943)
Seat 5: kimber_7267 (84,949)
Seat 8: SUITEDSHAMROCK (169,564)
Seat 9: e4effort (33,504)
pavelzzz antes 500
zack1991 antes 500
CLIKITYCLANK antes 500
smart2510 antes 500
kimber_7267 antes 500
SUITEDSHAMROCK antes 500
e4effort antes 500
pavelzzz posts the small blind of 2,000
zack1991 posts the big blind of 4,000
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pavelzzz [7c Ad]
CLIKITYCLANK folds
smart2510 folds
kimber_7267 folds
SUITEDSHAMROCK folds
e4effort folds
pavelzzz ?????

[Jauron]

I'd bet ~20K or just push.

[supafrey]

This is late in the tourney, btw. I think there were 20-21 ppl left.

[odlozilik]

I would probably push. BB is short.

[ninetensuited]

super double insta shove

[mortaleclipse]

Shoving not a bad idea, cry when BB wakes up with QQ

[ninetensuited]

Shoving not a bad idea, cry when BB wakes up with QQ

have you seen how short the BB is, i shove heree 101 times out of 100

[supafrey]

Shoving not a bad idea, cry when BB wakes up with QQ

have you seen how short the BB is, i shove heree 101 times out of 100

At what stack size would you think this changes to a different action? Right now he's calling 31k-ish to win a bunch.

Would this be diff if it was A2? A3?

[Jauron]

Is shoving with ATC bad?

[ninetensuited]

Shoving not a bad idea, cry when BB wakes up with QQ

have you seen how short the BB is, i shove heree 101 times out of 100

At what stack size would you think this changes to a different action? Right now he's calling 31k-ish to win a bunch.

Would this be diff if it was A2? A3?

you first have to assess what type of player your dealing with, does he need the final table money or is he ok busting out w/ 2 or 3 tables to go? But...I say A7 or possibly A6 is as low as you should be shoving here. Would also shove KQ. and 66+

one of 3 things happens.

1. He folds and you pick up 10k chips to increase your stack by a little over 10%

2. he calls and you are in a 60/40 or 30/70 situation and you win increasing your stack by 40,000ish chips which is a 40% increase in your stack.

or 3. he calls and you are 60/40 or 30/70 and you lose and you lose 31k leaving you w/ 62,013 chips

IMO 1 and 2 happen far enough more than 3 to justify shoving here. you are going to pick up enough chips to do this over time.

[kompis]

its a very automatic shove

[jeffonline]

BB is looking for a spot to get his money all-in and double up, BB is not interested in protecting the blind that opportunity has all but passed, BB will either push or fold and his cards not the play will determine that, so a raise 12000-18000 should give you your answer and if it’s a push you can preserve some chips and fold.

[odlozilik]

BB is looking for a spot to get his money all-in and double up, BB is not interested in protecting the blind that opportunity has all but passed, BB will either push or fold and his cards not the play will determine that, so a raise 12000-18000 should give you your answer and if it’s a push you can preserve some chips and fold.

If I raised 18K and he repushed, I would call even if he showed me KK.

[mortaleclipse]

my error, he doesnt squat here in chips. That is a easy move supa. 9Ten is right here

[supafrey]

BB is looking for a spot to get his money all-in and double up, BB is not interested in protecting the blind that opportunity has all but passed, BB will either push or fold and his cards not the play will determine that, so a raise 12000-18000 should give you your answer and if it’s a push you can preserve some chips and fold.

this is horrible advice.