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AA in a mtt, Badly played?

Postby Ciso_B » Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:34 am GMT

I have AA in BB, raise to $1000 (blinds 100/200) 1 caller to my right. Flop A 7 9 Rainbow. I think on betting 1k but bet minimum of 200 to act weak (hoping for him to go ott) he just calls. Turn is a 8, I think and move all in now . ( flush draw there now) He calls instantly showing 56 and a straight, board doesnt pair obviously lol. and i lose 5k from 10k granted relatively early. Its the only big hand I had up till now an got in a good position from average cards but I am questioning whether I should have bet so small on flop though I know alot of people would check the flop which is even worse. I don't know , I guess I just feel hard done by, I mean calling 1k of chips with a 56 heads up is a pretty dumb move in my book but we all different.
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Postby Swainy2k » Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:48 am GMT

I may be the only one that thinks this, but your bet on the flop wasn't going to win you a great deal and at the worse (which is what happened) you let someone in with a cheap draw. I assume the 56 connectors were suited (or he should never have been in that pot)(not convinced by the call anyway but there you go). The only trouble with a large raise and then a small trapping raise is that situation (ie having 2 aces and 1 showing) there is only one other ace he could have. If he doesn't have the ace he wouldn't call any bet cos he would have to assume you have at least one ace after raising so much and betting so little on the flop (has to set off alarm bells to me) so the only hand that would call you there would be people hoping to catch a draw.

On the otherhand you just flopped the top set on a rainbow board with only a very slight possibility of a straight beating you so it is a great situation to slow play, but personally (obviously depending how aggressive the player was) either put in a biggish raise against a tight player (not convinced a tight player would have played those cards) seen as it was a big pot anyway no real need to slow play vs the tight player, or check to the agressive player and let him bet back at me then reraise him for all his chips.

In the end you were very unlucky to lose to the straight but the only flaw I see with your betting was you bet very small (in comparison to the pot) when you had the best possible hand, and then bet very very big (for all your chips) when you had the 2nd/3rd best hand on the board.
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Postby flafishy » Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:58 am GMT

He never should have called the big raise preflop. I would have put him on a KK or QQ or something, and the 79 on the flop wouldn't have scared me. He made a stupid call and then got lucky.

On the other hand, I don't like to fool around in that situation. I got his 1000 chips on the preflop, I would have been happy with that and tried to take it down by betting the pot on the flop. If he called that raise, then he's just an idiot and there's nothing I can do about it.
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Postby yeltzen » Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:11 pm GMT

Okay, why would you bet 200 on the flop? That bet SCREAMS that you have top set. The guy was probably laughing his ass off that you would pull something like that. Unfortunately, with that smart move, you gave him over 10 to 1 to draw to his gutshot, which he made. In my opinion, you got greedy and got what you deserved.
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Postby Ciso_B » Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:58 pm GMT

OK thanks for the reply, not so much greed but more that I felt I could extract a lot from that pot. If I bet small , a good playermay read me for a lower pair (say JJ-KK) and regardless of whether he had the ace or not re raise, it didnt happen and I got outdrawn. I dont usually slow play hands but when you flop top set on that board, I think I can afford to act weak and not be too worried. But yes, I could see what you mean. But on the other hand , would you really want to fold this guy on the flop? I mean I am pretty content that Igot action and just feel I was unlucky. Oh well , happens.
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Postby nicthestick » Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:33 pm GMT

You gave him the pot odds as well as the impiles odd to draw at the gutshot. at least pot bet the flop, to protect your hand.
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Postby suitedaces84 » Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:52 pm GMT

I can't see that you did anything wrong. That's the least threadning board ever, and you've got top set. You were correct to slowplay it. Tough break.
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Postby nicthestick » Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:53 pm GMT

even 10 J has pot odds to draw at that board with the weak bet on the flop.
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Postby Ciso_B » Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:48 pm GMT

I know they could draw, but it would seem like a novice move forcing him out on the flop - I rarely slow play sets cos the flop can be dangerous. I guess I ran the risk when I bet small , but I am not that disappointed at my play. He was not ambitious enough to re raise me , (or too smart to fall for the trap?)
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Postby 1988 TR » Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:08 pm GMT

suitedaces84 wrote:I can't see that you did anything wrong. That's the least threadning board ever, and you've got top set. You were correct to slowplay it. Tough break.


I kind of agree with that. Sometimes slow playing jsut doesn't work out.
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