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Postby Phil14312 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:14 pm GMT

I'd rather squeeze with 22 or 78s that ATo.
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Postby supafrey » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:16 pm GMT

squeezing with at is pretty bad for a bunch of reasons.

as played, you haveta overcall that river because of how underrepresented your hand is.
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Postby gumbie » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:32 am GMT

Bet flop. As played call river.
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Postby xDiamond_CutteRx » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:02 pm GMT

supafrey wrote:squeezing with at is pretty bad for a bunch of reasons.

Agreed, but I wonder if the OP got this idea from Cardrunners or someone who subscribes to it, because I see the players in their videos 3-betting light with hands like AT all the time, and frankly, I think some of the advice they give out is terrible. But what do I know, I'm a live low limit donk and they're online superstars.
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Postby Jernej Zorec » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:34 pm GMT

gumbie wrote:Bet flop. As played call river.


QFT


AT is a good 3 bet hand when ur in position and opener isnt a raising nit , but OOP its quite meh
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:37 pm GMT

^ im on the button?
xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:
supafrey wrote:squeezing with at is pretty bad for a bunch of reasons.

Agreed, but I wonder if the OP got this idea from Cardrunners or someone who subscribes to it, because I see the players in their videos 3-betting light with hands like AT all the time, and frankly, I think some of the advice they give out is terrible. But what do I know, I'm a live low limit donk and they're online superstars.


Nah, sorta developed this thing on my own.
I started off with 0 bucks at stars recently, and after donkamenting up a bit, I've just been racing through the levels.

I'm guessing it's going to get harder when I hit NL400, but for now I've found this current strategy super-effective,(against regs more than donks, funnily) and have been beating the games quite handsomely...

Could be just a fish on a heater too, but we'll find out soon :)
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:21 pm GMT

btw- (the majority of you guys) were right, I had the best hand.

After timing out on 2 tables (folded KK on one and JJpreflop somewhere) I called and he showed QQ...
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Postby Ciso_B » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:57 pm GMT

Just stumbled across this thread, and read DC's post regarding cardrunners vids etc. I watched them about 6 months ago, and tbh I despise their style of play and tournament strategy. They advocate getting it in as a dog happily if it will mean they can get a better stack. You know why? Cos they will just up and register another mtt and play same way. Then eventually they'll get super lucky in one and maybe hit a score. They resteal too much, struggle to fold top pair and generally aren't all that great at hand reading. I gave the site a chance and watched a fair few videos. I won't deny their strat might be semi successful given the sheer number of tournaments they enter. But It's not how I view how tournament poker should be played. I like to think if I played the same number of tournaments they played (this would take a while though lol)I'd get far greater results simply cos I devote more attention to one particular tournament and am not so eager to get my chips in as an underdog.Now that rant's over, on to topic.

I think you played this hand poorly tbh, I really have no idea why you re raised that pre flop, and to me it seemed like you didn't know where you were at in this hand. I don't know the players at that limit well enough to guess as to what his hand is. But as earlier stated you haven't played the hand like you have trips. I would put you on KK,QQ and afraid of the Ace. Or the unlikely scenario that you have flopped the absolute nuts- A A . Since he's not afraid to bet the turn and river you have to make a judgement on whether he has AQ or something or has hit a set with one of the lower pairs and made a boat. He might have even rivered the boat here. That being said , I think a fair amount of the time you should call here, but my advice is not to get tricky with hands like A10 which have value anyway you can peel off flops easier. I personally would prefer you squeeze here with 39 cos you would have a better idea of where you're at.Any hand that calls your re raise pre flop is likely to be a made hand by the river imo. And I don't think its likely he would play the mid pairs like 10-10 and J J this way. So on 2nd thought, you're probably beat here imo.But I am not a cash player, so my advice isn't worth too much in this territory.
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Postby Felting » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:54 pm GMT

Phil14312 wrote: Also, fold preflop.
got two agree, against a EP raise, we are dominated a lot of the time.
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