Bad fold?
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Bad fold?
It seemed right at the time
PokerStars Game #23439377015: Tournament #129736825, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/12/31 14:59:13 ET
Table '129736825 31' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Mickepicke_8 (6292 in chips)
Seat 3: GenoTHP (4865 in chips)
Seat 4: S007R (18115 in chips)
Seat 5: RastaSteve80 (3250 in chips)
Seat 6: Bruno Nero (3165 in chips)
Seat 7: paire@max (6196 in chips)
Seat 8: bazarw (3480 in chips)
Seat 9: SneakyOne-DK (787 in chips)
GenoTHP: posts small blind 100
S007R: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GenoTHP [Js Jd]
RastaSteve80: calls 200
Bruno Nero: folds
theshrimpimp is connected
paire@max: folds
bazarw: folds
SneakyOne-DK: folds
Mickepicke_8: folds
GenoTHP: raises 600 to 800
S007R: calls 600
RastaSteve80: raises 2400 to 3200
GenoTHP: folds
S007R: raises 2400 to 5600
RastaSteve80: calls 50 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (2350) returned to S007R
*** FLOP *** [9d 2c 3d]
*** TURN *** [9d 2c 3d] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [9d 2c 3d 3c] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
S007R: shows [As 7s] (two pair, Sevens and Threes)
RastaSteve80: shows [Kc Ah] (a pair of Threes)
S007R collected 7300 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7300 | Rake 0
Board [9d 2c 3d 3c 7c]
Seat 2: Mickepicke_8 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: GenoTHP (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: S007R (big blind) showed [As 7s] and won (7300) with two pair, Sevens and Threes
Seat 5: RastaSteve80 showed [Kc Ah] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 6: Bruno Nero folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: paire@max folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bazarw folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SneakyOne-DK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
PokerStars Game #23439377015: Tournament #129736825, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/12/31 14:59:13 ET
Table '129736825 31' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Mickepicke_8 (6292 in chips)
Seat 3: GenoTHP (4865 in chips)
Seat 4: S007R (18115 in chips)
Seat 5: RastaSteve80 (3250 in chips)
Seat 6: Bruno Nero (3165 in chips)
Seat 7: paire@max (6196 in chips)
Seat 8: bazarw (3480 in chips)
Seat 9: SneakyOne-DK (787 in chips)
GenoTHP: posts small blind 100
S007R: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GenoTHP [Js Jd]
RastaSteve80: calls 200
Bruno Nero: folds
theshrimpimp is connected
paire@max: folds
bazarw: folds
SneakyOne-DK: folds
Mickepicke_8: folds
GenoTHP: raises 600 to 800
S007R: calls 600
RastaSteve80: raises 2400 to 3200
GenoTHP: folds
S007R: raises 2400 to 5600
RastaSteve80: calls 50 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (2350) returned to S007R
*** FLOP *** [9d 2c 3d]
*** TURN *** [9d 2c 3d] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [9d 2c 3d 3c] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
S007R: shows [As 7s] (two pair, Sevens and Threes)
RastaSteve80: shows [Kc Ah] (a pair of Threes)
S007R collected 7300 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7300 | Rake 0
Board [9d 2c 3d 3c 7c]
Seat 2: Mickepicke_8 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: GenoTHP (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: S007R (big blind) showed [As 7s] and won (7300) with two pair, Sevens and Threes
Seat 5: RastaSteve80 showed [Kc Ah] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 6: Bruno Nero folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: paire@max folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bazarw folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SneakyOne-DK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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HalfSugar - King Moderator
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Heh, tough spot. I lean toward fold here, expect to see flip or better pair more often than not unless he's been out of line in which case you wouldn't be posting. 1010-AA AK or AQ seem likely. Some guys shove wider which makes it hard to insta fold.
QQ is a call IMO without reads.
QQ is a call IMO without reads.
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Jauron - Posts: 2598
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without reads I think its pretty natural either way considering your stack. your just deep enough to make folding ok. Though his raise to almost AI usually indicate NOT wanting action.
If I was below 20BB I would simply open push to eliminate this problem to begin with.
ps, don't post results.
If I was below 20BB I would simply open push to eliminate this problem to begin with.
ps, don't post results.
- MrDarling
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I would have folded in this situation too. Without reads or history, my default thinking is that this guy is representing QQ, KK, AA, or AK.
- buckeyes77
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miaowmiaowchowface wrote:results make this hard:(
I left them in because I had nothing to say about the players since they were new to me. Normally I'd post without results if I could give more information otherwise it's a bit of a dry topic.
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HalfSugar - King Moderator
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Eh, this is very feel-based to me. I actually really believe that calling versus folding here is very close and would come down to my gut feeling, at that moment, against exactly these two players.
In a vacuum, it's still seriously like 50/50 to me. Maybe slightly more weighted toward calling, just because tournament donks are nuts these days.
In a vacuum, it's still seriously like 50/50 to me. Maybe slightly more weighted toward calling, just because tournament donks are nuts these days.
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xDiamond_CutteRx - Moderator
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It just feels like such a reverse float play to me. I don't know what else besides a top 5 hand would motivate sometime to limp in in early position and then throw out a solid re-raise. Or maybe a stone cold bluff steal if this guy has any history of running this sort of thing.
- buckeyes77
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The fact that u are up against 2 players in this situation make it much more likely that you will run into QQ-AA. Even the best case against decent players would be us up against AK and AQ, so we are dodging 9 outs and str8/flushes. I thinking folding jj and AK is right in this situation unless your <10BB's.
Now against one player I'd ship it all day with jj or AK unless I read them to be a nit. Then look for the next tourney to sign up for.
Now against one player I'd ship it all day with jj or AK unless I read them to be a nit. Then look for the next tourney to sign up for.
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