Bad play or bad luck?

[TheDudeChad]

Middle to late stages of a tournament, I am in second chip position with about 2500 TC. I'm in the BB with JT of diamonds. Bunch of callers, I decide to see the flop. Flop comes Q 9 8. VERY nice. SB checks, I go all in (no outdraws on this dude). I get two callers (which is good, right?). One flips over 99 and the other flips 88. I'm a bit scared at this point. Turn is another queen, and I'm beat. Darn. To add insult to injury, another 9 comes on the river to make quads for lucky dude #1. I don't think I made a bad play, did I? If I bet big without going all in, the queen would come and I would still think I'm ahead. No raises pre-flop meant there probly wasn't any pocket pairs. I would probly have gone all in at that point too. Is there any way around this beat? The trips dudes would call anything, and they would outdraw me. Comments?

[BorisMcN]

Given the flop and your hand (the nut straight), you made the right play (In my less than expert opinion ) by making anyone with a pair/two pair/ straight draw back down... but when youre up against two sets... you have to hope the board doesn't pair. Just an unfortunate deal.

Some may say that you could have bet big saving some chips for yourself. Then Calling all in if reraised or folding depending on your opponent. That might have given you an escape on the turn... but personally I think you made the right play.

[Fat Tony]

Some may say that you could have bet big saving some chips for yourself. Then Calling all in if reraised or folding depending on your opponent.

that doesn't make sense. his all-in bet got called, so obviously a big bet bet would have been as well. then, depending on how big he bet, he'd probably be pot commited anyway. besides, given the flop and the fact that he had a nut straight, why wouldn't he call a re-raise???

[BorisMcN]

that doesn't make sense. his all-in bet got called, so obviously a big bet bet would have been as well. then, depending on how big he bet, he'd probably be pot commited anyway. besides, given the flop and the fact that he had a nut straight, why wouldn't he call a re-raise???

Sorry Tony... re-read my post again... He made an all in bet vs a big bet... I said that some people would not go all in, but bet big and then act according to their read on the opponent that raised/called as opposed to just moving in.

Apologies if it wasnt clear.


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[JimTheBullet]

Nothing you can do on that hand - a classic cold deck. The two players with the sets can legitimately believe that they may be ahead and even if they aren't they can't be drawing dead and they would have to be very unlucky (the 88 guy) to be drawing very thin.