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Besides fold preflop what should I do here?

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Besides fold preflop what should I do here?

Postby ErinJeff » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:39 pm GMT

Villain has only been at table for a few orbits but ended up after 90 hands at 38/1/1.4.

POKERSTARS GAME #16845006482: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/04/19 - 14:35:28 (ET)
Table 'Melete III' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: reda0010 ($4.65 in chips)
Seat 2: dps51 ($14.25 in chips)
Seat 3: mouratix ($17.30 in chips)
Seat 4: ErinJeff ($32.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Virus222 ($5.45 in chips)
Seat 7: hawkk67 ($14.75 in chips)
Seat 8: LouieOneTime ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 9: Switcher1960 ($51.05 in chips)
Switcher1960: posts small blind $0.10
reda0010: posts big blind $0.25
Beni113: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ErinJeff [7d Ad]
dps51: folds
mouratix: calls $0.25
ErinJeff: calls $0.25
Virus222: folds
hawkk67: calls $0.25
LouieOneTime: folds
Switcher1960: calls $0.15
reda0010: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah Ks 9d]
Switcher1960: checks
reda0010: checks
mouratix: checks
ErinJeff: bets $1
hawkk67: calls $1
Switcher1960: folds
reda0010: folds
mouratix: calls $1
*** TURN *** [Ah Ks 9d] [7c]
mouratix: checks
ErinJeff: bets $3
hawkk67: folds
mouratix: raises $5.25 to $8.25
ErinJeff: ??
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Postby khaosanroad » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:39 pm GMT

push or fold.
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:06 am GMT

wow this is weird. btw RAISE preflop:)

I'd fold here, could be AA, KK, (AK?), 99, and it is all too often if you ask me.
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Postby MrDarling » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:07 am GMT

khaosanroad wrote:push or fold.

what will that accomplish?

You have position, its a limped pot and villain can easily have a smaller two pairs.
Depends on stack sizes (ie how much both of you have left in relation to the pot size) I can see a call here and a call on the river if it doesn't get uglier.

Villain could have a set on 99, AK but also K9, 97 and the like...
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Postby TheSalche » Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:19 pm GMT

Villain is pretty short, has ~$9 left after the raise. I'm willing to get it in, but I think we extract more value from weak two pair if we call the raise and call his shove / push the river.

And yes, this is probably a fold preflop.
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Postby Jauron » Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:55 pm GMT

He is only folding air to a shove, he's got more in the pot than he has back. Double his bet if you feel like you need to be tricky and push river.

I don't know why we think we extract additional value by calling the turn here, what hand check raises the turn for half his stack but folds? The only hand that thinks about folding turn is straight draw and we make no more money from them by checking the turn.
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