best way to generate rake

[MrDarling]

My rakeback affiliate has a rake race, which pays nice bonuses.
1st get $2500
10th get $750.

Am currently in the top 10.

Whats the best way to generate lots of rake?
6max or FR?
Am currently 12 tabling $200NL, have just gotten my table limit extended to 16 so will probably start 16 tables from tomorrow.
Am playing Fullring for two reasons, I don't have hud for a while since am playing on a mac, and figured FR games get to see more flops = more rake.

Since on FT rakeback is hand dealt, I can play pretty tight at $400NL if that means more rake (maybe even short stack those levels) break even and still show profit for the month.

Anyone have any insights on this?

Danny

Am guessing I need to figure what pot size is the rake capped on, and find the levels where most hands reach that size.

[crack]

You know the advances of iron man medals $ value but you don't know this? I thought this info would be right up your street.

Rake is capped at $3 on every full table and every full 6 max table. I think when it gets to 5 or 4 the rake goes down and HU rake is capped at $.50. Pretty sure that the rake is 5% of the total pot up to the cap.

Pretty sure 6max is the best way to go for more rake. FT is generated rake and not contributed so for example ....

If a full table was getting capped at $3 then you would get 1/9th of the $3 as contributed rake, where as on a 6 handed table you would be getting 1/6th.

Limit is the best game to generate rake because you see more flops than in NL.

[MrDarling]

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If a full table was getting capped at $3 then you would get 1/9th of the $3 as contributed rake, where as on a 6 handed table you would be getting 1/6th.

Damn, didn't think about that. Good point.

Problem is I suck at limit.
What level of limit is the equivalent of $200NL in terms of skill/BR?

Am really thinking about SS $400NL for those rake session (as well as playing some normal 4tables $400NL)
Have to admit its pretty different playing without PT stats.

[crack]

If you can't play limit then don't chase a maximum bonus of $2500 because overall the amount you make - your losses won't be worth it.

I'd say 5/10 to 8/16 is about equiv to skill/br though.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

If FTP allows max 16 tables and you're capable of doing it in 6max, do that then imo.
Stars allows 24 tables, so I can 24 table FR 200-400 with a winrate, FWIW. I think that'd be pretty hard to do in 6max, but there are some who do it. You could always do half half, too.
this is my 2c, don't know much about it cuz i never played another site than stars

[odlozilik]

Well, I am a little bit skeptical about focusing so much on the rake race. I think it's not worthy, if you can't maintain your best play, as you would otherwise. The potential losings might be much bigger than the prize given, considering the enormous money we put in pots during the whole month.
But, if you can do it, do it!

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

6-max = faster = more hands = more rake.

If a full table was getting capped at $3 then you would get 1/9th of the $3 as contributed rake, where as on a 6 handed table you would be getting 1/6th.

True, if all players play the same number of hands. However, the burden of rake falls more heavily on the looser players. The fewer pots you play, the less rake you'll pay, especially if you mostly play proportionally larger pots.

[supafrey]

If FTP allows max 16 tables and you're capable of doing it in 6max, do that then imo.
Stars allows 24 tables, so I can 24 table FR 200-400 with a winrate, FWIW. I think that'd be pretty hard to do in 6max, but there are some who do it. You could always do half half, too.
this is my 2c, don't know much about it cuz i never played another site than stars

Are you seriously a >0.5/100 winner at 400nl over 24 tables?

[Ensano]

If FTP allows max 16 tables and you're capable of doing it in 6max, do that then imo.
Stars allows 24 tables, so I can 24 table FR 200-400 with a winrate, FWIW. I think that'd be pretty hard to do in 6max, but there are some who do it. You could always do half half, too.
this is my 2c, don't know much about it cuz i never played another site than stars

Are you seriously a >0.5/100 winner at 400nl over 24 tables?

lol... 1200$/hr is quite a nice income... not to mention bonus plus RB

[Ensano]

if average individual rake per hand is .30... 30% RB at 1200 hands/hr (50 hands/hr tiems 24 tables)

that's about 100$/hr if you could maintain 0.00PTBB/100... even then that's good enought for me..

[MrDarling]

Well, I already play mostly 12 tables session and do enjoy it.
I didn't start playing this because of the race rake.
But now that I noticed I'm in the top 10 I want to maintain this position. I doubt I can take top 3 as it will be hard to compete with someone who multi table $1000NL and play just as much as I do.

[Muck]

It never fails to amaze me how many tables some of you play. Anyone running >=6 games at once has my admiration.

[crack]

6-max = faster = more hands = more rake.

If a full table was getting capped at $3 then you would get 1/9th of the $3 as contributed rake, where as on a 6 handed table you would be getting 1/6th.

True, if all players play the same number of hands. However, the burden of rake falls more heavily on the looser players. The fewer pots you play, the less rake you'll pay, especially if you mostly play proportionally larger pots.

I don't understand the point you are making. Full Tilt rake is generated and not contributed, so regardless of how much rake is actually in the pot, as long as you are dealt in, you will receive your fair share of generated rake.

[MrDarling]

I guess Diamond point is that if you play really tight, playing at FR will cost you less real rake but you'd still make as much "official" rake as the loose players at the table.


Just finished my second 16 tables 6max session. Played 2.5 hours and finished dead even.
Didn't help that my KK<AK , my JJ<KT etc...
I think I play decent poker, but its highly exploitable since I fold the best hand very often.

Damn, I miss my stats.
Am going to try to make a video of my next session if anyone interested.

Danny

[crack]

Oh yeah, I see what DC is saying, you actually contribute less rake, but it will also mean that you will not generate as much rake.

Only if it has audio.