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bluff 1st hour of mtt..

Postby Ciso_B » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:13 pm GMT

I don't have the hh right here, but this was it

Stacks - me , 2,100. I open for 125 UTG with A-Q...folds round to Mid pos who calls and CO who calls. MP- 2950, CO-3200

Flop - Kc 10h 4h...pot 450

I c bet 225, call and call..

Turn - 4s, I check, check, check.

River-6c.....pot 1,125

I move all in for 1,735...


Do we like ?


My thoughts - Preflop, certainly opening this hand from any pos.

Flop- I don't always c bet this flop, esp 3 way, but you know, I've repped strength opening utg, its K hi flop, I figure I ll take one shot at it, nothing crazy, 1/2 pot,unfortunately i get called by both.
So Im most likey c/f turn now.

Turn -4,I stick with my plan ,2 calls is enuf to dissuade me, I check, they both check,so before river comes, I say to myself if any card 8 or lower which isn't a heart, Im going to bet hard.

River6c, PERFECT, I felt like they never have a 4 here, they RARELY have a king since they surely would bet turn if they hadn't raised turn, and 10-10 surely would bet flop. So my only decision is what todo, I could even be good here imo, but i really dont liek checking cos busted draws will bet, If i bet like 400 I "know" at these stakes they will cal if they have A10/QT etc...so thats why I opted to move in.

Thoughts?
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Re: bluff 1st hour of mtt..

Postby jeffonline » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:42 pm GMT

With both villains appearing to chase, I think your push is good here. You are under the gun and raised pre, then lead the flop, they have to include JJ QQ AK in your range, all appear to have them beat, they only have 10% of there stack in the pot & they are only getting 1.6 on their money so no real damage if they fold and a big big call with a AT QT JT 77 88 99.
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Re: bluff 1st hour of mtt..

Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:17 pm GMT

terrible spew
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Re: bluff 1st hour of mtt..

Postby Ciso_B » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:55 am GMT

villian tanked and found call with A-10... my turn check is what obviously got the customer here but i cant bet twice oop into 2 people, once they both check back turn , i think its an ok spot on this river.

Terrible spew? Maybe it is , looked like an ok spot to execute though , not like i was crazy, i hand read it well and decided on certain rivers what would it be smart to do the move.
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Re: bluff 1st hour of mtt..

Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:07 pm GMT

Ciso_B wrote:villian tanked and found call with A-10... my turn check is what obviously got the customer here but i cant bet twice oop into 2 people, once they both check back turn , i think its an ok spot on this river.

Terrible spew? Maybe it is , looked like an ok spot to execute though , not like i was crazy, i hand read it well and decided on certain rivers what would it be smart to do the move.

every fish calls b/c/b with ace high
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Re: bluff 1st hour of mtt..

Postby Garoen » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:20 pm GMT

going to have to agree with miaow on this one, logically any king will bet that turn esp. w/ a two tone flop. to expect villain to fold here you have to give villain credit for 2nd level thinking (i.e. is he being trappy by checking non-heart turn with a king? is my 10 good here? big bet on river, i'd better let this one go.)

my turn check is what obviously got the customer here but i cant bet twice oop into 2 people,


why not? you already know ppl will never fold top in a donkament, we are trying to represent strength and i see this as the only viable line to fold out better hands.

they RARELY have a king since they surely would bet turn if they hadn't raised turn, and 10-10 surely would bet flop


this was probably his exact line of thinking, and the reason that he was able to call.
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Re: bluff 1st hour of mtt..

Postby AHBrownell » Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:34 am GMT

Your story doesn't make sense.

If you made a flush draw on the turn, you would have bet it. When you check the turn you are telling everybody that you don't have a king or a flush draw.

Then the flush hits the river, you aren't pushing there if you had it; you'd bet an amount to get called. So again, shoving looks like you want people to fold - a flush wants a call soooo.....

If you wanted to sell this, I'd at least bet less on the river.
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