Coming back... big MTT tourney

[General Sal]

So, I'm just messing around with this game... I'm wondering if you guys make this same play.

Basically, the same guy I go up against in this hand had raised on the button...the big blind re-raised all-in, and the guy folded. He tries it again... and I figure... why not give it a shot? Creatures of habit, right? The blinds are high...all the donkeys are in the money. I've just sat down... so they don't know how i play.

Would you guys make this play? Is this a +EV play?

POKERSTARS GAME , $5.00+$0.50 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XI (500/1000) - 2007/12/29 - 15:58:38 (ET)
Table '71192058 366' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: fisherfolk (42089 in chips)
Seat 2: yxor (13191 in chips)
Seat 3: Fmansamuk (15078 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: notaboos (10435 in chips)
Seat 5: DonkeyHero (8808 in chips)
Seat 6: Canadien1993 (22095 in chips)
Seat 7: 2hustle4 (14861 in chips)
Seat 8: djhuelse (26110 in chips)
Seat 9: mo1099 (6572 in chips)
fisherfolk: posts the ante 100
yxor: posts the ante 100
Fmansamuk: posts the ante 100
notaboos: posts the ante 100
DonkeyHero: posts the ante 100
Canadien1993: posts the ante 100
2hustle4: posts the ante 100
djhuelse: posts the ante 100
mo1099: posts the ante 100
notaboos: posts small blind 500
DonkeyHero: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DonkeyHero [Td Jh]
Canadien1993: folds
2hustle4: folds
djhuelse: folds
mo1099: folds
fisherfolk: folds
yxor: raises 2000 to 3000
Fmansamuk: folds
notaboos: folds
DonkeyHero: raises 5708 to 8708 and is all-in
yxor: calls 5708

[Felting]

considering your stack size, yeah I'd push. Hopefully he has two unpaired cards which aren't a 10 or a J.

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

I doubt you have much fold equity, but given your stack size I agree... this might be as good as it gets.

[ninetensuited]

i personally wait for something that is a suited connector or a pair or overs. i just dont like reshoving w/ offsuit connectors.

[MrDarling]

agreed, I like to have FE or at least be first in when pushing with crap.

[General Sal]

Hmmm...with antes and blinds, you have
$2500 chips. He raises to $3000. So far... $5500 in pot.

I re-raise to 7708 all-in. He's got in for $3000. He pays $5000 more to win about 10K. I think I did the math right... effectively, he's gtting 2:1.

Still... I could have him dominated. Although, I think he was thinking I have some kind of pair and he decided to be the 2.5:1 dog.

He had [Ad,3h]

[kompis]

Its very close, depending on the player.. if he is the raise any2 in lp once antes kick in type of player i likely to throw caution to the wind and gamble it up. but against an unknown or a tight player i will not shove a weak hand with no fold equity

[MrDarling]

yeah, I much rather open shove a worse hand then 3bet shove with no FE with semi decent hands. For what its worth, in this situation I might even fold A2-A7.

I really try to avoid getting so low, but sometimes the table is so aggressive and you are so card dead you will need to find a hand you like and gamble.

Here is how I look at it, you just posted the big blind, so you've got another round to wait for a better spot. Though you are very short, you are still deep enough to hurt half of the players at the table.

[Jauron]

It's about 12K so about 2.5:1 he can take a shot with almost any two. Bad spot IMO.

[Ciso_B]

I dont like the shove, you're gettin called for sure, and I'd prefer to push and pick up dead money with a suited connector, Kx,Ax, anything rather then a weak hand where i know im getting called less im forced to. Dont know if this is -ev or +ev I just know I wouldn't shove here.

[TheSalche]

Great experiment, but I hate it. Fold equity is a short stack's best friend.

[Moon_Child]

FINALLY, a decent thread on the forum for a long long time.

i'm learning something!!!! so happy... ^^

and yeah, i don't play tourneys at all, so this is interesting.