Deep Stack Tourney

[SDPokerDude]

Deep stack tourney that starts with 10K

8 players at the table, I am sb, 100/200 level, my stack is approx 11k

Preflop action...

cutoff limps (weak player, I am not worried about him -- he has approx 4K)
button raises to 600 (he has been raising 2-3 times per orbit and has a loose image -- he has approx 7K)
I have and call
cutoff calls

pot = 2k

Board comes

I check blind
CO bets 600
button raises 4200
What should I do? I have approx 10.6k remaining.

Ultimately, I believe I made the right move here. I just want to get some criticism.

Thanks in advance

[golddog]

Disclaimer: It's very late here and I'm not sleeping because of other stresses brought on by idiots with whom I'm forced to deal. So I may be thinking even less clearly than normal.

Ugh. Kind of a strange raise, button's leaving 2.2K behind, so they're going in there on the turn regardless. I think your fold equity is pretty much zero from the button.

You're beat now, so you're being asked to effectively bet 6.4K (4.2 + button's 2.2 behind) to win 9K,right? (2K pre + 600 + 4200 + button's 2.2 K) + (maybe 2.8 K from cutoff sometimes when he doesn't fold). So, let's say the average equity is going to be 9.5K.

Doesn't seem like your 12 outs are enough. If the button's as loose as you think, maybe there's a percent of the time he's floating and you're ahead? I still don't think it's enough.

On the other hand, if you flat call and don't hit the flush on the turn, you'll have 6.4K left, 32BB, plenty of stack to play, and can reevaluate after seeing the turn.

I probably take this last approach, although I admit I don't like it.

[HalfSugar]

On the other hand, if you flat call and don't hit the flush on the turn, you'll have 6.4K left, 32BB, plenty of stack to play, and can reevaluate after seeing the turn.

This is literally never an option

As played, might as well jam it eh? Playing Ad7d OOP against two players is pretty retarded however weak you think the button is so why not go hunting for a diamond for your entire stack.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

I check blind
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I check blind

[HalfSugar]

I forgot to ask about that - explain the blind check. PLEASE.

[SDPokerDude]

I check blind when I see a flop from SB because I either gain position or get a free card. Betting in that position pays off sooo seldom that "in-the-long-run" it isnt worth it.

In this situation, it made me have to make a decision for half my stack, but I have doubled up so many times with 2-pair or a set or a straight that it is often a strong play.

Using the play in a raised pot may not have been the greatest, but it was a bit of a "playing-the-player" move as well.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

I check blind when I see a flop from SB because I either gain position or get a free card.

I'm not sure you understand the concept of position

[SDPokerDude]

I check blind when I see a flop from SB because I either gain position or get a free card.

I'm not sure you understand the concept of position

If I thought you were capable of having a convo beyond pounding your chest and proving what a JA you were, I might try explaining my point to you. As it is, you can think how you like about me and/or my play.

[HalfSugar]

I check blind when I see a flop from SB because I either gain position or get a free card.

You realise it's not a 'live check' right? It's not like straddling in a cash game...............

[SDPokerDude]

I check blind when I see a flop from SB because I either gain position or get a free card.

You realise it's not a 'live check' right? It's not like straddling in a cash game...............

I understand. But by checking blind, if no one bets, I got 4 cards for the price of my pre-call. If someone bets, I have the info of every one's action to decide how I proceed. By basic rule of thumb is 2 pair or better, or a monster draw (which I had on this hand).

Like I said, in a raised pot, the blind check is not necessarily a good move, but I do not think it is a horrible move.

[HalfSugar]

So what is the advantage of a blind check over a check made after seeing the flop?

[golddog]

Let me guess: you're keeping the opponents off-guard because they'll never know if you're going to come back over the top with a check-raise (?).

[SDPokerDude]

Let me guess: you're keeping the opponents off-guard because they'll never know if you're going to come back over the top with a check-raise (?).

Exactly. I make a big point of checking pre-flop. Then I do not even look at the board until my next action. I can get some reads on this. I have been able to lay down 2 pair before -- either because of a raise/reraise or because of a tell. If I were to fire, it is just lost money.

[HalfSugar]

Poker on the TV is great isn't it?

[SDPokerDude]

Poker on the TV is great isn't it?

I assume you do not like this move...

please elaborate.