Did I do something wrong?

[sceadu]

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Hand #769451-19462 at Jenison (No Limit Hold'em)
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Started at 19/Jan/04 00:00:30

mattpackage is at seat 0 with $1.45.
trialnerror3 is at seat 1 with $6.84.
Hortod is at seat 2 with $2.11.
ahardinjr is at seat 3 with $1.96.
Nasty_Nizzle is at seat 4 with $11.86.
cfoskin is at seat 5 with $.81.
Roman McKooch is at seat 6 with $2.67.
PecanGrower is at seat 7 with $1.97.
sceadu is at seat 8 with $1.43.
whozurfan is at seat 9 with $5.19.
The button is at seat 7.

sceadu posts the small blind of $.01.
whozurfan posts the big blind of $.02.

mattpackage: -- --
trialnerror3: -- --
Hortod: -- --
ahardinjr: -- --
Nasty_Nizzle: -- --
cfoskin: -- --
Roman McKooch: -- --
PecanGrower: -- --
sceadu: Kc Qc
whozurfan: -- --

Pre-flop:

mattpackage folds. trialnerror3 folds. Hortod
folds. ahardinjr calls. Nasty_Nizzle calls.
cfoskin calls. Roman McKooch calls. PecanGrower
folds. sceadu calls. whozurfan checks.

Flop (board: As 4c 9c):

sceadu bets $.12. whozurfan calls. ahardinjr folds.
Nasty_Nizzle folds. cfoskin calls. Roman McKooch
folds.

Turn (board: As 4c 9c 8c):

sceadu bets $.48. whozurfan calls. cfoskin goes
all-in for $.67. sceadu calls. whozurfan calls.

River (board: As 4c 9c 8c Tc):

sceadu goes all-in for $.62. whozurfan calls.



Showdown:

sceadu shows Kc Qc.
sceadu has Kc Qc 9c 8c Tc: flush, king high.
whozurfan shows Ac 8d.
whozurfan has Ac 4c 9c 8c Tc: flush, ace high.
cfoskin shows Ad 9s.
cfoskin has Ad 9s As 9c Tc: two pair, aces and nines.


Hand #769451-19462 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
whozurfan wins the main pot $2.49 with flush, ace high.
whozurfan wins the side pot $1.24 with flush, ace high.
mattpackage has disconnected, is dropped.
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3:1 favorite post-turn.. Oh well. No more real money for me.. Anyone want to help me out with what I did wrong?

[Leo]

get used to it, it'll happen again. monster-hands will get out-drawn even if they're the favorite. just hope you don't get unlucky next time

[groton]

yah like
today
went all in Pre Flop with KK
After a guy went all in for like 500
i called his 500 and riased anouther 1500 fiquring that make everyone else fold

well i got called by the guy next to me who had AA

That was a PS 3am turny.


well no Tens,or Kings hit he won with the pocket Rockets thoe i just missed a Flush that would of saved me by one card

[Stain_Rat]

Hey groton, that didn't happen to be at a Party Poker $6 single table tourney did it? I just saw the same thing happen at about the same time you mention...

[highscty]

The guy who beat you didn't neccessarily make any mistakes. you on the other hand made some mistakes. on the flop you had only a flush draw. He had a pair of aces. Your large semi-bluff on the flop was probably very incorrect. Fortunatley you hit your flush on the turn but he hit two-pair, and the nut flush draw. You really think hes going to fold top two with the nut flush draw? He had about a 52 % chance to get either a flush or full house ( not counting the cards in your hand which he didn't know) and not to mention you might have been bluffing. If your quitting online poker because of this bad beat, then maybe poker isnt for you. Sorry for the harshness, just try to consider the fact that your opponnent didn't make a mistake.

[Poker_Vendetta]

I guess you could have tried going all-in there on the turn, with 3 clubs out it's rare to want to give someone a free shot to make the nut flush. So maybe an all-in on the turn over the top of the other guy might have worked...he still may have called however.

[highscty]

Btw going all in on the river was also a mistake because I can't imagine him calling with anything less than the nut flush. Seems like a frustation move on your part. I would have gone all in on the turn althought it wouldn't have changed the outcome THIS TIME. The best way to play this hand in my opinion is to: call pre-flop ( what you did) check/call the flop ( you bet which was a mistake.) Some may argue you made the correct play on the flop as a semi-bluff but its clear you thought that you had the best hand and sem--bluffing is worthless in low limits. On the turn more aggression was in order as you clearly had the best hand. On the river you should have either check/folded or check/called.

[Poker_Vendetta]

Yeah, High is right I believe. A semi-bluff in first position there IMO is not a great play, someone sitting behind you certainly could have an Ace and would most definitely call...so you would just be betting for value, which is by no means the point of the semi-BLUFF, your bluff was unlikely there. A check/call was appropriate since you may get paid off pretty nicely if you hit the flush, which you did. You needed to be very aggressive on the turn, I suppose what you did was efficient than a check/call (by that I mean a check and call move intentionally) would be appropriately because your hand has shrunken up considerably and if you bet right out you may be reraised there by a stronger hand. Although it's likely he would bet big anyway. Not much you can do.

[sceadu]

I'm not quitting poker. It's just that I can't really deposit money into the account, since I'm not legal. I just won that $2.50 from a jackpot playing on playmoney tables. Brought it up to $6 or so, but then lost a good bit on some bad plays and bad beats. I'm certainly not quitting, but I can't really put in more money to play with, which is what I was meaning to say.

Thanks for all the replies guys, you really shined some light on it. I knew about the mistake of going all-in on the river instead of the turn, but I hadn't really thought about the semi-bluff thing, and I didn't realize just how glaring the mistakes were. But thanks. I just bought some poker books and I'm going to do some reading so sharpen myself up before I can lose some big money.

[nicthestick]

That is not really a bad beat imo. If i had 2 pair and the nut flush draw, it would be very hard to make me go away, especially at micro limit. When the 8c hit 4th street, your fate was sealed.

[mike_z]

i agree with nic. your fate was sealed on the turn, plus you're playing these micro stakes that ppl usually don't even care about drawing you out. I think that if the turn was any club but that 8, he still woulda called you with the nut flush draw and top pair. but that just my opinion.