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Postby PokerGoblin » Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:45 pm GMT

yea thats what I meant
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Postby Poker_Vendetta » Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:07 pm GMT

Moneymaker got the MOST lucky when he faced Humberto Brenes:

Bre: AA
MM: 88

Flop, XXX 2 overcards to MM's pair. Now what the **** could MM put Brenes on? MM goes all in (or may have just put Brenes in), and on the turn he catches his 8. Brenes is stunned and MM takes back about 1/3 of his chips, not a crippling blow but it's really not that good of a hand.

Phil Ivey Hand:

MM: AQo
PI: 99

Flop: X QQ MM slowplays it with a small bet, just about the minimum I think, and the X is a lower card than the 9 I THINK (not sure).

Turn: 9 Of course MM bets again (much bigger bet) and Ivey goes over the top, Ivey is then busted when the Ace comes on the river.
So both got very lucky, Ivey when he caught his 9 and MM when he caught his Ace. But this wouldn't have happened if MM didn't slowplay (the slowplay SHOULD have burned him).

Let's see, what else...These aren't any big things but he flopped the nut straight with QJo against Lester's AQh. And he did outplay some of the pros on bluffs and what not, but for the love of god he got pretty lucky on some of these hands! No doubt.
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Postby BigSlickAK » Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:00 pm GMT

That's not the point highscty. I agree with P. Gob.
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