first post apologies if in wrong place and info already out

[semtex32]

I would like to know how to calculate odds post flop when a combination of cards are required.
ie in a game I played recently I was winning with a pair of Q's and my opponent had 10 2
a 10 on the turn and a 10 on the river is, I assume, bigger odds than simply adding the odds from the odds calculator here? ie 6 outs on turn then 5 outs on river? or am I wrong and it is simply around 15 to 1?
Hope that makes sense.

[MrDarling]

assuming he have no other out (ie back doors draws) you are : 94% favourite on the flop.

Simply put the hands in the calculator + the board and it will tell you how is your equity in the pot.
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

190,080 games 0.047 secs 4,044,255 games/sec

Board: Qd 9s 4c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 94.603% 94.60% 00.00% 179821 0.00 { Q5s, Q5o }
Hand 1: 05.397% 05.40% 00.00% 10259 0.00 { T2s, T2o }

The rule of thumb is, you have to double the amount of outs per cards to come to know someone's odds of catching the cards he need.

So if opponent have 9 outs (a Flush draw) on the flop, they are 18% to make it by the turn and 36% to make it by the river.

[odlozilik]

The probability of you being outdrawn is
(6/45)*(5/44)=1.515%, so 66:1
when not counting any other possibilities as backdoor flush or straight, if it was possible at all.

[semtex32]

Thanks for that - thought it was a long shot. next question - was I right to scream and swear at my laptop

[UrAteUp]

Sure...thats the great thing about online poker. As long as you did not berate the fish and chase them away. People who take those big chances like that are the ones you'll make the most money from.

[semtex32]

Sure...thats the great thing about online poker. As long as you did not berate the fish and chase them away. People who take those big chances like that are the ones you'll make the most money from.

Sadly it wasn't a big chance. But how do you play it?
6 Q suited and I'm small blind, I have 550 chips and he has 5000. big blind is 300 and other players have folded. May as well go all in I thought, and I don't blame him for calling another 250 chips... basically he had nothing to lose. Maybe I was fishful thinking... What would others do in that situation?

[HalfSugar]

The probability of you being outdrawn is
(6/45)*(5/44)=1.515%, so 66:1
when not counting any other possibilities as backdoor flush or straight, if it was possible at all.

The quick route is to bastardise the 4/2 rule and just say that it is 2/2 on each street since you need to hit twice. It then becomes:

((6x2) x (5x2))% which is 1.2%. Obviously there is quite a big (relative) margin for error there but it's close enough and that calculation can be done easily in your head on the fly.

[Jernej Zorec]

when u have 5bb and ur in sb u should shove every hand
even 10bb shoving any 2 might be profitable been a while since i looked into it tho i'm pretty sure it is in SNG's

[MrDarling]

well, to become better in poker, you need to look at your equity when all the money went in.

in this case, he was correct to call since he was only 1.5-3 dog.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,712,304 games 0.094 secs 18,216,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 61.952% 61.49% 00.47% 1052823 7987.00 { Qs6s }
Hand 1: 38.048% 37.58% 00.47% 643507 7987.00 { Th2h }

[semtex32]

Not sure what the last message was telling me but he was correct to call cos he won!

[Muck]

cos he won!

No the actual outcome is not important. If's like if you and a friend both bet £1 on the roll of a dice, he says 1-5 he wins and if it's a 6 you win. He rolls, it's a 6 and you win. That doesn't mean you were correct to take that bet.

You need to think about what will happen if you repeat that bet 100 times, will you make or lose money. Rather than making your judgement of this one instance.