Gid (ninetensuited) offering high stakes HU lessons on FTP?!

[crack]

Yeah, I can understand that and why supa posted. The problem is, if I was the guy out of pocket I would seriously have to consider the remote possibility the person would rather keep his good reputation and pay me back. To be honest I think that is the type of person Gid is. I think he has always taken any criticism about his poker game really to heart and obviously has mental issues.

Now there is no real reason for him to pay it back because he will no doubt be blacklisted by everyone here and will never be trusted again, even if he apologised and paid the money back in full and then saved a few African kids.

It's ok saying that supa did a good thing here because now the public know what gid is like, but the innocent parties have had their hand forced by an outside entity in the situation and that isn't fair imo. While everyone who wasn't in the know can breath a sigh of relief they didn't get involved with Gid, the two innocent parties are still out of pocket and probably lost the only small chance they had of getting their money back in full.

It was really down to Rick and Milky to make this decision or tell supa it's fine to go ahead beforehand.

That's my two cents anyway.

Edit: If I was the one who had lost the money and Gid did pay me back on the promise of keeping his reputation in tact, I would undoubtedly blow the whistle on him.

[zinn0]

I would have done the exact same thing Pavel has done even if Milky and Rick asked me not to.

It is in the best interest of everyone involved here at THP to have info like this out in the open.

[Garoen]

I would have done the exact same thing Pavel has done even if Milky and Rick asked me not to.

You're a real class act. You would have gone against the wishes of those who were actually involved in the situation to satisfy your own self-righteous desire to publicly tar-and-feather the perpetrator, whilst eliminating any possibilty of him righting the situation before his reputation is inevitably tarnished ANYWAY. You do realize that this man lost over 1,000 dollars right?

I hope you see the stupidity in this post. I would honestly consider an edit.

[supafrey]

Just because you're too poor to be affected by a thief doesn't mean the rest of us are. Those of us with a decent roll and a pleasant attitude needed to be warned of the fox in the hen house. Appeasing terrorists is fun and all, but considering the level of kuntiness Gid has shown it is far more likely that he was planning on stealing from yet another person than "waiting" to give back Rick's money UNTIL i happened to say something. Let me guess, when he doesn't pay now, it's my fault?

Your logic is almost as good as your poker skills, chief.

[Yozman]

I would have done the exact same thing Pavel has done even if Milky and Rick asked me not to.

You're a real class act. You would have gone against the wishes of those who were actually involved in the situation to satisfy your own self-righteous desire to publicly tar-and-feather the perpetrator, whilst eliminating any possibilty of him righting the situation before his reputation is inevitably tarnished ANYWAY. You do realize that this man lost over 1,000 dollars right?

I hope you see the stupidity in this post. I would honestly consider an edit.

garoen = gid

[supafrey]

can we get an IP check? Maybe they're just inbred cousins or something.

[Garoen]

I understand how finding out that you were actually correct on one of your hunches must have incurred a furious wank session and a need to get to "Omgz teh forumzz!!!!", the point is that the chances of him repaying the stolen $$$ was significantly reduced when you ousted him here in front of everyone. (Albeit in a very moronic way). Clearly there is no winning this argument as you seem to have a whole team of nut-riders waiting in the wings to reiterate what you've already said in an attempt to feel like one of the cool kids.

On another note, are you capable of having a discussion without the middle school name-calling and banter? I mean really, for someone who wants to come off as this cool as ice short-tempered steve mcqueen of the forums, I don't think a play on my username and an insinuation that I've had children with blood relatives does anything for your "image".

Just something to think about, cool guy.

[supafrey]

Gaydeon was actually a play on ninetensuited, whose name is Gideon. The fact it bears a shocking resemblance to your name was just a pleasant bonus.

How dense do you have to be when several people say you're being silly and you attribute it to some widespread secret cliquey circle-jerk instead of accepting the fact that you may very well be wrong?

[Garoen]

I think the best move in a situation like this is to agree that we simply will not agree and move on. The topic has been beat to death. Unless there are any new relevant contributions, I won't be posting in this thread.

[HalfSugar]

can we get an IP check? Maybe they're just inbred cousins or something.

They are not the same person.

[snoogins47]

Cool, I'm a supa fanboy now?

Also, I assure you that siding with Supa is decidedly NOT the fast-track toward acceptance in this community. Trust me on that.

Anyway... GAME TIME KIDDIES! May I focus all of your attention on one specific post? Some minor formatting edits have been made to draw attention to what is, in reality, the only actually relevant (read as: hilarious) information.

I understand how finding out that you were actually correct on one of your hunches must have incurred a furious wank session and a need to get to "Omgz teh forumzz!!!!", the point is that the chances of him repaying the stolen $$$ was significantly reduced when you ousted him here in front of everyone.(Albeit in a very moronic way). Clearly there is no winning this argument as you seem to have a whole team of nut-riders waiting in the wings to reiterate what you've already said in an attempt to feel like one of the cool kids.

END PART ONE, BEGIN PART TWO. Remember, these are the same post, separated by nothing but a paragraph break.

On another note, are you capable of having a discussion without the middle school name-calling and banter? I mean really, ipso facto lorem blahnium, cool guy. Smiley.

Study that hard. Why is it interesting?

Hint: The two sections interact in a certain way illustrating a certain concept.

Hint2: The concept in question rhymes with Muhlarious Nipocrisy.

But really guys? Outing him while also actually keeping the identifying details on everybody else quiet, makes it that much less likely that Gid will pay up? I'm not so sure on that one. If it was vaguely-planned and a scam, nothing will do the trick, and if it was something else, I don't see why making this information public could have an unequivocal effect on the chance of the funds being paid back, and anybody who definitively claims one way or the other is deluding themselves.

Guilt/Embarrassment might make him pay back when he did not want to. It might make him give up entirely and run away. It might make him laugh because he was taking us for a ride. Maybe he gets off on it. Talk about a weird fetish.

Accusing Supa of being on ethically shaky ground for publicly posting this is a defensible position, but saying this was because he definitely made the chance of repayment less is taking a personal guess based on intuition and preconceived notions of Gid/his psyche and pretending that it's somehow something more than just idiotic bias. (And yes Supa basically does the same on the other side here, which should have been enough to make both of you realize what you were doing)

What if he does pay up? Does that somehow negate the potential value to the community of being informed that it happened at all? If the situation gets totally righted, which I have a feeling is at least semi-likely, and Gid ends up back in my/our 'good graces' for lack of a better term, I will still not lend him money, or give him passwords, or anything like that... despite the fact that I might still trust him, in many(most?) senses of the word.

And to Gar specifically, re: Zinn0:

You honestly think that 'outing' the perpetrator is self-righteous slander? (Or libel, maybe... I've never quite figured out which could possibly apply to message boards) Do you really think there is no/nearly no inherent value to each and every one of us by knowing this? The online poker community and all its little offshoots, including our own, is one which basically throws money around, lets people play on their accounts, and at every turn, counts on a serious level of trust from other members. Knowing something like this has happened is +EV to each and every one of us.

In this case, I don't know if it 'should' have been done, or how much of it may have been done for the wrong reasons, again, we run into shit being irrelevant. Extremely so. Now, when somebody fires back and tells me that Supa's reasoning for outing Gid IS relevant I'll go ahead and suggest that the person in question bang their head against their desk repeatedly until it makes sense.

Geno: I'd highly recommend not locking this unless you want to incur a healthy dose of THP-Jugend jokes from us out here in the peanut gallery. Yes, I'm a gallery member. Like "You know, the Nazis used to close forum threads written by the Jews."

[Garoen]

I said I'd only reply to relevant contributions but this is such an over the top example of irrelevancy that you've left me no choice.

In this case, I don't know if it 'should' have been done, or how much of it may have been done for the wrong reasons, again, we run into shit being irrelevant. Extremely so.

I'm glad you needed this long winded and utterly pointless post to arrive at this conclusion anyway. That you have no conclusion. I also find it unfortunate that you lack the mental capacity to differentiate between a well thought out rebuttal and childish name calling. (You don't agree with me?! You must be an inbred homosexual w/ a bad haircut! On foodstamps!) See what I'm getting at here?

I also notice you try to make something that looks like points?

I understand how finding out that you were actually correct on one of your hunches

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

furious wank session

I was merely referring to the session mentioned on page three of this very thread. You remember right? Or are you even reading any of this?

/me does a wanking motion

In case you were just skimming.

the point is that the chances of him repaying the stolen $$$ was significantly reduced when you ousted him here in front of everyone.Albeit in a very moronic way

Not really sure what you're getting at here, this thread was created stating Gideon was offering poker lessons, not robbing people blind. Perhaps supafrey was just trying to be cute? But ultimately pretty poor judgement if you ask me. Especially considering the sensitive nature of the subject.

nut-riders

I concede, I was out of line. You guys like to be called fanboys now right?

In the spirit of 2+2...

tl;dr

[crack]

JAKE STOP POSTING LONG POSTS PLEASE KTHX.

Garoen: It was only a real small chance he would pay it back. If it was anybody else I would never expect to get the money back and no doubt post something up. Thing is though, I think we got a good look at how gid operates by being in IRC with him so IMO I thought there was a chance of getting the money back by keeping it quiet. It doesn't matter now and who knows, he may do the right thing the next time he ships something.

And also, if anyone is stupid enough to transfer to the person first who wanted a transfer, they deserve to lose their money imo.

[snoogins47]

Man, I was hoping you were more of a douchebag than a troll. I lose. Nice post though.

[kingetje]

OK, what is this IRC thng and how do i get on it?