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Postby mr.malware » Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:35 pm GMT

man oh man. I was dealt pocket 2s. not wanting to scare anyone
off, i raised just a little preflop. everyone stayed in, 6 people.
flop came, ?22. I had it, kept my face everyone kept
checking. i checked the first round, turn comes, i raise
just a little, as not to scare anyone off and win nothing with
my 4s. i think 1 or 2 folded. then the river, i raised a little more
this time, since people had a little invested, and its just money.
half folded. I took it, was'nt much.
Any one have advice on how to juice up the pot when the
community cards are low? I think i did all i could do, without
scaring everyone off after the flop. It just sucks when you get
4 o.a.k. and you cant clean up. I just wish someone got a boat
and we could have battled.
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Postby HalfSugar » Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:51 pm GMT

If no1 is biting then there is nothing u can do really. Perhaps a massive bet to look like a bluff would have worked but by the sounds of things they were all on rags or playing too tight and that would have killed it even quicker. These things happen I guess.
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Postby Dave B » Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:03 pm GMT

I agree w/ the artist formerly known as Genocide. I assume you were playing NL???? I would have raised the min after the flop. Then 1/4 to 1/2 pot after the turn and then probably 1/2 pot again if no one raise you back.

That is the fun/interesting part of poker-sometimes you can make more w/ pair of 9s w/ an Ace kicker than you can with quad 2s.
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Postby mr.malware » Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:27 am GMT

Yeah, it was no limit. It was about 4 a.m. too, so people
were falling asleep at the table. wussies. An over bet to
look like I was buying the pot is a good idea, maybe
someone would have tried to 'not let me get away with it'.
We're all friends, and pretty much know eachother's
methods, so I think in this case, I scraped as much as I
could have off of those fools. Thanks for the replies.
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Postby PokerGoblin » Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:55 am GMT

Knowing your opponents is key, also your position at the table is a very big factor. If you're close to last position and everyone checks before you I'd have made a moderate raise after the flop... you bet preflop right? That there makes it harder for anyone to believe you'd be trying to buy it, if you slowplay you might entice someone who maybe made top pair to call.

It all has to do with who you were against. It's always cool to slowplay against an aggressive player who might just be on a draw or someone who thinks an overpair might be enough leverage to buy it.

Sounds like you might have goten maximum money given the circumstances.

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Postby Poker_Vendetta » Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:25 pm GMT

You really get excited over pocket twos? Your opponent HAS to have overcards basically in every scenario, and unless you flop a set you are dead meat to any other pocket pair obviously. 22 is a hand you do not want a lot of people in the pot with...you could make a big bluff at the pot and if you feel the other guy missed the flop, you COULD go all in but against 6 people, playing this hand is horrible, not good at all.

22=Crap

22 with set=Gold

But before the flop there is no telling what kind of trouble you can be in. 22 is a hand to limp in with, any MAYBE call against a loose-aggressive or just loose player when you have position but 22 can be beaten by soooooo many hands it is ridiculous. Hopefully you have realized this by now.
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Postby mr.malware » Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:24 pm GMT

i was in the last seat on the deal, everyone checked. I know
2's are low, but they are also sneaky. I raised to feel everyone out.
and ya, i know 2's are low... after the flop, if high cards came
out, i would'nt have stayed in, but everyone else was pussin
this round, so i made a small, not too risky move. It worked
out for me, well, it would have if someone else got a fh. But,
dude, there is nothing to realize. I know 2s are weak, all others
in the round were too though, so you never know. I hope you
realize now that you never know.
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Postby karasz » Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:06 pm GMT

as long as it was a calculated move then your fine... its when you are under the gun and go all in with them...

then you suck
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