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miaowmiaowchowface · by **miaowmiaowchowface** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:47 pm GMT

woman is utg 9max, has about 40bb, she hasn't shown down anything and seems nitty. in one hand she opened co, btn 3bets and she open folds JJ (wat) i cant remember if this was before or after my hand

i have 32-33bb
she opens utg to minraise, her usual is like 2.5
i have tt
i fold
thoughts?

Kemics · by **Kemics** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:05 am GMT

what position are you? if you can see a cheap flop, for a min raise i call just for set value from late position.

jimmer · by **jimmer** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:09 pm GMT

what stakes?

Kemics · by **Kemics** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:16 pm GMT

SB-arm BB-leg

exit music · by **exit music** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:04 pm GMT

Yeah that's a really weak fold, especially considering that she'll probably fold a lot after the flop. Her range has got to be really tight, JJ+ and AK, but she's folding when she misses the flop, and she's folding her KK when there's an Ace on the flop. Considering this, your position, and the stacking potential you have if you do hit a 10, I don't see why you'd ever fold here.

xDiamond_CutteRx · by **xDiamond_CutteRx** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:39 pm GMT

jimmer wrote:what stakes?

I'm assuming this is from the EPT San Remo event.

I think folding in position here is overly weak, in part due to set mining potential (which probably isn't as great as some ITT believe), but also because of implied fold equity on a lot of flops/turns she shows weakness on, given her obvious propensity for folding without the nuts.

3-betting is obviously out of the question.

Kemics · by **Kemics** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:31 pm GMT

she open folds JJ

i wouldnt count on bluffing her out of pot, if she knows what she's doing she could be manipulating her table image to get people to try and push her off hands.

min-raise UTG in this spot looks strong to me.

HalfSugar · by **HalfSugar** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:13 pm GMT

xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:3-betting is obviously out of the question.

+1

Call or fold. Flopping top set is probably the only gin flop you'll see though. Perhaps 32BB is not enough to make this call but I think that depends on how long you have been sat with her (based on Kemics' good point about her creating an image if you/her are new to the table).

miaowmiaowchowface · by **miaowmiaowchowface** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:54 pm GMT

1. i don't mind min3bet folding as long as we understand its a bluff

2. i think this is actually pretty close, we gonna get in a crapload of tough spots from here i.e. when she bets the flop for 3bb and im putting so much of my stack at risk

3. shes prolly not developing an image as shes a woman and all she knows how to do is cook and or clean

i was utg +3 btw

xDiamond_CutteRx · by **xDiamond_CutteRx** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:15 pm GMT

1. i don't mind min3bet folding as long as we understand its a bluff

TT is a little too good to turn into a bluff IMO. I'd honestly rather do it with something like 87s if we're going to incorporate some middle part of our range.

Ciso_B · by **Ciso_B** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:33 pm GMT

call call call . Take a flop imo. Noyone says you have to go broke or put too much of your stack on the line. But she could check /fold alot post flop, plus you have a good hand .10-10 is a too good a hand to fold against weak/tight player for 2bbs in position.

jeffonline · by **jeffonline** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:10 am GMT

miaowmiaowchowface wrote:
shes prolly not developing an image as shes a woman and all she knows how to do is cook and or clean

You show her a lot of respect then spoilt it.

kingetje · by **kingetje** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:24 am GMT

the more i think about this hand the more i like a fold

shes really that nitty and were not even gonna like it when we flop an overpair. were gonna hate overs... which pretty much leaves us calling for set value only.. and with 32BB i dont think thats appropriate? so yea i like a fold

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