Help: Ring Games
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Help: Ring Games
Well, as good as I've been doing in tourny play and snG's, I'm doi8ng the exact opposite in ring games. I've mangaged to lose $200 of my Friday night winnings over the course of weekend. All of it happened in ring games at all times of the day. Usually in $10 - $25 chunks. I'll jump in a game after watching a bit, seeing that the flop % is below 40%, usually low 30 to high 20's. I start playing my usual tight and aggresive game, and I keep getting beat. I'll be playing hands like QQ, raise when I'm in late position, maybe 1 or 2 people have called to this point. 1 or 2 of the blinds calls. So now I'm QQ against 2-3 people. Flop is rainbow, and no cards to help a straight. I raise again, and 2 drop out. 1 guy re-raises, hmmmm, do I have a guy who sat back on a PP? Maybe, but I call. This goes back and forth until we get to the river. A K or A pops up, I raise again, sometimes I check, doesn't seem to matter cause these guys just won't drop out. I lose to KK or AA. The guy stayed in re-raising me to the max, all in hopes that he'd get an AorK, no chance for anything else. I've run these hands through poker calculators and I'm heavily favored over and over again, yet I continue to lose. Throw in a few times that I'm even been beaten with AA or had to throw it away due to obvious flush draws or 3 of a kind, and I'm getting my ass kicked. It's not just one guy at the table, it 2 or 3. Now I do win hands, and when these yahoos have no high cards they fold, but I don't win enough off of the regular players to offset the beatings. So instead of grinding out a steady profit, I'm grinded down. This happens at .50/1, 1/2, 2/4 and 3/6, I'm obviously missing something, or should I just stick to SnG's and Tourneys? I just don't always have 1 1/2-6 hours to play. Sorry for the long post. I'll post more details if needed just ask.
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- Hawk_1MG
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you have to expect that in the small limit games. If all it will cost dude is one more bet, He will make it if the pot odds are right. HE most likely put you on a PP, and was pulling for the A on 4th or the river. You see that all the time in 1/2. The only way to protect yourself is to play a bigger limit, or no limit. Even then, You will still see some amazing plays. I am playing .10/.25 NL and flop a set of 10's. 2 clubs hit the board. I dont want to give a flush chaser a chance to catch up, so I move in $18 into a $6 pot. I get called...... with 69 clubs. And of course the Ac hits the river. So dude called a preflop raise with 69 clubs, and chased a 4 flush for $6. You see some amazing things at the lower stakes. Just be prepared for it, and ride it out.
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nicthestick - Posts: 830
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you have to expect that in the small limit games. If all it will cost dude is one more bet, He will make it if the pot odds are right.
And, sometimes even when the pot odds aren't right people will still call. It is very difficult to bet someone (especially a fish who is chasing) out of a pot in limit play. Many feel that they've already invested in the pot so why not call one more bet?
I agree with nic. Move up to a higher limit or no limit game if you want to play against those who have the best hands, not the best draws. I play NL and will still come up against this on occasion, especially in a very loose room, but it's usually only one or maybe two at the table, not all 10.
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