Home game situations

[mudsliptones]

I've been playing some home games with my friends (they don't play poker that often, they know the rules, but not the play itself).
I always ended making up some money every sessions except the last one, where I just didnt get any cards. I got like 2 major hands and villain had a well concealed better hand. I'm gonna write a hand here:

I pick up AA in BB. everyone folds, villain checks, SB folds, I raise to 4BB. He calls.
Flop (I don't know the suits anymore but that didn't matter, no flush draws on the board)
5 10 5
I bet about half the pot. Villain checks
turn: K
I again bet half the pot, he checks again
River: 6
I bet the pot and he raises. Now here I know I went totally wrong, but I called
He showes K5o and wins with a full house

How do I play here preflop, he is pretty agressive player, plus they (all the players) don't really consider what hands to play, they go by gut feeling I think, sometimes playing hands like 2 10o

I don't want to hear about my call on the river, I know I was wrong, but I was tired and you know, allot of drinking, laughing at the table....

Also, I'm intersted in playing in general against these types of players. Do I only play strong pocket hands?

[JDRock]

In this hand, everyone but one player folded to the BB. From that, I don't think the players are all that bad. Players just call everything in most of the settings I consider low skill (some unnamed not-for-money internet dives).

That being said, low-skill settings definitely require a player to modify his/her play style. Because of that, sometimes you're going to get taken, even in such a casual place. So, if you're usually finishing in the money at home games, don't beat yourself up just because of the one time you didn't. Everyone spews on Aces cracked.

Hand selection is of paramount importance, as it always is, but be prepared to see a lot of flops if everyone is a call-station. Also, certain hands that are pretty good in high-skill are pretty bad in low-skill. Like pocket 9s, unless you get a set. It's because you know that out of the four players who saw the flop one has paired the over card sitting there. Also, it's pointless to play bad hands if they're all going to showdown. Good understanding of not only "what" to play but "why" will help you out a lot in lower-skill settings.

[Jauron]

If he's the kind of player who will call 3 bets with 10X, or any PP then betting river is fine. If he's the kind that needs to have a strong hand to call both streets, then we should consider checking river for pot control, although bet/fold can be fine here too. Part of our problem is we can beat any other 2 pair, so we need to understand if this is the kind of board he feels K10 is the nutz on, being the type of strong hand we can beat.

He is supposed to be an aggressive player who is now flat calling with no obvious draws on board. You need to factor this in, what other types of hands have you seen him play this way?

Without reads or history betting this river isn't bad, there are enough hands that could call us that we beat, but we need to fold to raise. If you fear the raise too much, check/call.

[mudsliptones]

I had another home vash game 2 nights ago
Was with people I don't know, and 3 of them didn't play poker ever....


I take down the first pot. 2nd pot went like this:

I'm in late position, villain is in early position.
He calls the blind, I call with 6Jo, rest fold, blinds follow.

flop 7 J J
blinds check, villain bets (he has an "were only playing for 5 euro so the hell with it attitude")
Now, he made a small bet here, so I follow (not to want to give anything away) , Blinds both fold here

Turn: 7
Ideal for me, IF he does have a J my low kicker doesn't matter anymore. We both hit a full house. He bet, and now I raise a fair amount to try to scare him away if he doesn't have a J. He calls.
River Q
He bets, I call (at this point more then half our stacks were in play)

He shows JQ

This set a trend for the entire evening, this guy kept raising allot with nothing in his hand, but most of the times he was lucky on the river.

I played rather tight for the rest of the evening and made a small profit (very small) But with such agro players, and me not hitting anything more then 1 pair I think I played well (except for that first big pot off course)

[Ensano]

against players like this just keep hammering...

with J6 I wouldn't get too ahead of myself but the AA and other big hands like that don't let up...

Hand 1 (AA) bet more. if these are the type of players that think TPMK is the nuts then you need to bet closer to pot to get the most from them...

[Jauron]

I had another home vash game 2 nights ago
Was with people I don't know, and 3 of them didn't play poker ever....


I take down the first pot. 2nd pot went like this:

I'm in late position, villain is in early position.
He calls the blind, I call with 6Jo, rest fold, blinds follow.

flop 7 J J
blinds check, villain bets (he has an "were only playing for 5 euro so the hell with it attitude")
Now, he made a small bet here, so I follow (not to want to give anything away) , Blinds both fold here

Turn: 7
Ideal for me, IF he does have a J my low kicker doesn't matter anymore. We both hit a full house. He bet, and now I raise a fair amount to try to scare him away if he doesn't have a J. He calls.
River Q
He bets, I call (at this point more then half our stacks were in play)

He shows JQ

This set a trend for the entire evening, this guy kept raising allot with nothing in his hand, but most of the times he was lucky on the river.

I played rather tight for the rest of the evening and made a small profit (very small) But with such agro players, and me not hitting anything more then 1 pair I think I played well (except for that first big pot off course)

? Why would you want to scare hands out?

[mudsliptones]

since he's a first timer he might not know I have the same hand as him, so he might fold it...

[Jauron]

since he's a first timer he might not know I have the same hand as him, so he might fold it...

Forcing him to have a J somehow gets a J to fold? Interesting. First time players never fold his hand on the turn, the rest of us don't either. It's not that you raised turn, it's why you did it that is terrible.