How do you compete against this?

[nicthestick]

Hand #1097801-3 at Lincolnwood (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
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Started at 23/Feb/04 18:41:26

Gordology1 is at seat 0 with 990.
jmannenyc is at seat 1 with 985.
nicthestick is at seat 2 with 980.
Chubby3434 is at seat 3 with 990.
Sammy Farha is at seat 4 with 1000.
mattyNH is at seat 5 with 1000.
fgallant is at seat 6 with 1000.
sabreman is at seat 7 with 1000.
RoedRunner is at seat 8 with 1000.
black13 is at seat 9 with 1055.
The button is at seat 2.

Chubby3434 posts the small blind of 5.
Sammy Farha posts the big blind of 10.

Gordology1: -- --
jmannenyc: -- --
nicthestick: 7c 7h
Chubby3434: -- --
Sammy Farha: -- --
mattyNH: -- --
fgallant: -- --
sabreman: -- --
RoedRunner: -- --
black13: -- --

Pre-flop:

mattyNH folds. fgallant folds. sabreman calls.
RoedRunner calls. black13 calls. Gordology1 calls.
jmannenyc calls. nicthestick raises to 225.
Chubby3434 folds. Sammy Farha calls. sabreman
folds. RoedRunner folds. black13 folds.
Gordology1 folds. jmannenyc folds.

Flop (board: 7d Js Kd):

Sammy Farha checks. nicthestick checks.

Turn (board: 7d Js Kd 6s):

Sammy Farha bets 300. nicthestick goes all-in for
755. Sammy Farha calls.

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

nicthestick shows 7c 7h.
Sammy Farha shows Ad Qs.
WHAT??????????????????????????????????????????????
All in with a draw??????????????


River (board: 7d Js Kd 6s Td):

There it is.
The Miracle River



Showdown:

nicthestick has 7c 7h 7d Js Kd: three sevens.
Sammy Farha has Ad Qs Js Kd Td: straight, ace high.


Hand #1097801-3 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
Sammy Farha wins 2015 with straight, ace high.




HOW DO YOU BEAT THESE CLOWNS????

[highscty]

Don't raise pre-flop with mid wired pairs, don't slow play mid sets and then don't be surprised when you've convinced them that you are bluffing.

[highscty]

O and I wouldn't be surprised if he actually had the correct pot odds to call there ( huge pot) and you could be bluffing. He was practically pot committed after he tried to semi-bluff you, I would have gone all in on the flop, or at least bet big. You gave him a reason to try and bluff.

[nicthestick]

A little clairification. I am on the button. With 5 limpers, and a smaller pp, I will make a steal raise at the pot. I really am not looking for a call in this pot. When I am called, I know that at best, I am looking at AK or AQ. Small fav to huge dog. When the 7JK hit the board, with no flush possibility, Im not sure that Im best yet. JJ, KK. After Dude checks it, im pretty sure that hes on over cards, and I wasnt him to catch up a little and pay me off. When he bluffs at it on 4th street, I dont want another spade to fall and kill me. So I make the correct play (imo) and move in. dude chases, and hits the river. it should be known that this guy was gone 14 hands later after chasing 2 more hands to the river. I will play this hand exactly the same way almost every time, unless someone can point out a very serious flaw in my thinking.

[BeerWench13]

He shoud've never seen fourth street without having to call your all-in bet. When you flop the set, especially a small set, you have to bet big right away. The free card on the turn killed you.

[nicthestick]

6 of spades killed me? Like I said, I wasnt sure I was best until he bet 4th street. I have a real hard time getting all of my tournament chips at risk when im not sure, especially early like that.

[BeerWench13]

Sorry I misread the suits. I thought that put him on the straight draw and the flush draw. I will say, however, that if you had bet strongly after he checked on the flop he probably would have folded thinking that it wasn't worth risking all of his chips on a long shot.

I'm no poker ace (obviously) and it's really hard to judge when I don't know what kind of plays this player had been making before this hand, but slow-playing a set can really come back to bite you. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

[nicthestick]

this was the 3rd hand of a sng. I had no notes on this guy. I do now. How much do you bet to get rid of this guy though? pot sized? over the pot? And I could have been betting into the nutz. I mean what do you call a 225 preflop raise with?

[BeerWench13]

I understand what you're saying. That guy may have called whatever bet you gave. It's difficult to tell in the 3rd hand with new players.

I'm not in any way criticizing your play. I am merely making a suggestion that perhaps he'd have laid down his hand if you'd bet after the flop. Like I said, I could be wrong. I had a player call my all-in with 72off and not even a pair on the flop. Some people will call anything.

[Damian]

Personally, I would have bet quite big after the flop, rather than checking. The guy may well have been one of those who always calls, but I personally wouldn't have worried when he checked after the flop - there was always the chance he was slowplaying JJ or KK, but if you're going to spend your life worrying about hidden pocket pairs, that's a lot of hands folded.

At the end of the day, mate, you just got unlucky against a poor player. Happens to a lot of us. Just be pleased you did the right thing, and try to get the guy in the same situation again. You'll win more often on that play than he does...

[highscty]

Once again, I don't think its fair to says the opponent played poorly. AQ is a very good hand. You should not be raising with 7,7 after 5 callers. This was a huge mistake. You do not want to be risking large amounts of your chips this early with a mediocre hand. A call would have been far and out a better play. He flopped an over pair and a 4 out straight draw ( huge pot.) In my opinion you incorrectly slow played an already big pot. He correctly took the free card. He then decided to semi-bluff because you showed weakness. Once you re-raised he was pot commited and had good ( or close enough) pot odds to call with the overpair and straight draw. He didn't know you had a set... or anything at all. You got outdrawn, but you let it happen.

[nicthestick]

the dude had no over pair. He was on a 4 outer straight draw. That is it. he ad AQ the board was 7JK6. The guy had nothing but a draw and overcards.

[nicthestick]

I guess we will agree to disagree on this one. I think that I got a guy to bluff at a pot, then once I showed him that I was not going away, he chased a 4 outer. If the situation was reversed, I would have let it go. Every time.

[TheSportsPredictor]

Bet him out early! So many times people don't pet postflop, then when the other guy ends up finding out on the turn that he only needs one more card for the nuts, he goes for it. MAKE THEM PAY TO DRAW THEIR CARDS IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING SO GREAT!!!!!!!!

Your greed got the best of you. You wanted to bust him instead of just taking what you were given.

[nicthestick]

Again, This gut did not improve his hand on 4th street. If he was going all in on 4th, he was all in on the flop.