I don't get group buys - help me understand

[Mechanic]

- Some board members believe there is need for a downward adjustment on prices in the high-end of the chip market.

your post was sounding quite reasonable until this statement where you definitely revealed your bias against lowering prices. in all your other summarizations from this thread you started with the "board members feel..." exceept for the one on price where you say "some board members feel...." funny, i didn't see one post other than yours disagreeing with prices needing a bit of a downward correction. as far as i'm concerned, the credibility of your entire post got thrown out the window right there.

We're looking to get the best chips possible, and pay what is necessary. Price is not really a primary consideration.

i have no problem with this statement on it's own, but then you go on to say.......

We believe there are tremendous strides left to be made in chip design, quality, and manufacturing technology in the chip market. Furthermore, we believe the high-end of the chip market can only be advanced by retailers and manufacturers that have an interest in improving poker chips for the home market, and this improvement requires investment, and a genuine interest in serving the needs of this market.

i have no problem paying top dollar for a top-notch product, but this definitely isn't the case as you acknowledge. you seem to be saying that we shouldn't mind paying top dollar for a less than top-notch product because the extra money we pay will fund "improvements" to the product line. i say BULLSHIT! the extra money goes straight into retailers (like yourself) pockets. since when do retailers fund improvements to product lines?? the fact is they don't, manufacturers do.

While some on this board say there is a need for a downward price adjustment, we and our customer base believe quite the opposite.

there's that word "some" again. are you actually trying to tell me that your customers would say "no, we don't want to pay less, use the extra money to improve the product". RIIIIIGHT.......i might have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.

At the risk of being labeled an ass kisser...I officially love Fat Tony now

[JHile31]

Obviously, BPC is not too smart, or atleast doesn't think before he "talks." I have to laugh when I read what he says...every word he types is losing one more order! He's more of a "flip flopper" than John Kerry!!!

[Iron Butt]

Well, Yeltzen and Fat Tony pretty much covered it. The emperor wears no - hey wait, there's no emperor even! I really hate the whole mediocrity wrapped in the buzzwords of excellence thing you see so often in business.

Re BPC chip aesthetics, well of course someone likes every-damn-thing; plastic lawn flamingos, free jazz, twinkies, PBR... ahh, good times, good times. I maintain that's demonstrably bad design though.

Re John Kerry, oh puh-lease, can't we just let that poor homely man be? And who weasels more than Bush? Let's just not go there...

[galderon]

He's more of a "flip flopper" than John Kerry!!!

Re John Kerry, oh puh-lease, can't we just let that poor homely man be? And who weasels more than Bush? Let's just not go there...

No good can come from the direction this thread is headed.

[Iron Butt]

LOL, agreed. I'm about done with this thread anyway unless something really exciting happens.

[JHile31]

Re John Kerry, oh puh-lease, can't we just let that poor homely man be? And who weasels more than Bush? Let's just not go there...

this wasnt to start a political battle...i dont like either of them, but you cant deny that kerry doesnt know what he wants...lets leave it at that

[Fat Tony]

please leave any political discussion for another time and another place.

[Haps]

BPC your true motivations shine thru in your posts so brightly I can hardly see.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see why people participate in group buys. There is a market for cheaper and/or well designed chips. So as a retailer fill that need or don't. Simple really. Your chips fall into neither category. Tens eqyptians fall under both categories.

If you had posted asking people to pipe up the motivating factor in their group buy purchase was you would have gotten the information you wanted. But wait you didn't want information. You wanted the board to start disallowing group buys because you can't pimp your wares here. And you wanted to cast doubt on Ten and group buys in general.