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Postby weirdofreek » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:21 am GMT

After 6 months with no net. I am back....... Now that you had your chance to say who cares heres my hand. It was a friend's hand online so no HH.

.25/.50 First round since sitting down hero has $45 and is 3 before Villian Has $90 and is UTG.

Hero has KK

Villian makes it $2 fold to hero who makes it $6.
Villian makes it $12
hero calls

Flop 10 Q J rainbow
villian open shoves
hero?
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Postby Felting » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:23 am GMT

If we are up against AA we are a 24/76 dog.
If we are up against AK we are a 2/85 dog.
If we are up against QQ-TT we are a 32/67 dog.
If we are up against QJ,QT,JT we are 48/50 nearly even.
If we are up against AQ-AT, we are a 85/15 favorite.
If we are up against KQ-KT we are a 60/7 favorite.

(note: all unassigned % are ties)

Hero has 33 left after the flop so he must call 33 to win 57.75(assuming neither of u where in a blind).

Pot odds 1.75 to one.

You are not getting the right odds to call AA-TT,AK. Absent a read, That is the range I would assign him preflop. The donk shove on the flop causes me to pause. It would still make sense with AA or any of the sets, or any two pair hand though because he would then be trying to take down the pot with the shove because of the str8'ishness of the board.

I say fold, if we had a read that he was loose or just plain fishy, then his range would be wider making a call correct.
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Postby supafrey » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:39 am GMT

raise preflop dude. If he could "only" have AA against you here start raising (3 or 5 bet bluffing) constantly.
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Postby Felting » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:02 pm GMT

supafrey wrote:raise preflop dude. If he could "only" have AA against you here start raising (3 or 5 bet bluffing) constantly.


I agree, Unless I'm up against a known ubernit, i'm more than happy to get it all in preflop with KK.

(edit: forget that, my name ain't Helmuth, I'm ALWAYS happy to get it in pre with KK)

As played I still think it's a fold.
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Postby weirdofreek » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:05 pm GMT

Thats what I told him, no reason to not get it in preflop. He folded the flop though so we'll never know for sure.
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