Interesting live PLO hand
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Interesting live PLO hand
My buddies and I played a PLH/PLO mixed game earlier rotating the game every orbit. The game was 5-handed. I've not got much experience at PLO, I have much more experience of PLO8 and LO8 so PLO is not a good game for me.
We were at 100/200, me on 7K, villain on about 12K. Villain is a solid holdem player and a proficient omaha player. He's quite aggro in both, rarely giving a free card on any street.
I was in the CO with [As][Ts][Td][3d] and limped in. Villain raised on the button to 800, blinds folded and I called. Pot 1,900.
Flop [9s][9h][8c]
I check, villain checks.
Turn [Qs]
I bet 800, villain calls.
River [9d]
I check, villain pots for 3,500.
My thought process on the flop was that I'd basically bricked it pretty badly and expected to be bet off it at which point, I happily release my hand. His check surprised (and worried) me.
When I developed a flush draw on the turn, I figured I'd bet and see if I could get some info from him. He flat called almost instantly (probably because the bet was so small looking back!).
On the river, when I checked, he potted quickly. This made the decision really quite hard. Obviously I discounted the 9 but I couldn't discount AA-JJ given the pre-flop action. After a lot of tanking, I let it go and he showed sweet FA.
Can I ever make this call for half my stack?
How should I have played this hand?
We were at 100/200, me on 7K, villain on about 12K. Villain is a solid holdem player and a proficient omaha player. He's quite aggro in both, rarely giving a free card on any street.
I was in the CO with [As][Ts][Td][3d] and limped in. Villain raised on the button to 800, blinds folded and I called. Pot 1,900.
Flop [9s][9h][8c]
I check, villain checks.
Turn [Qs]
I bet 800, villain calls.
River [9d]
I check, villain pots for 3,500.
My thought process on the flop was that I'd basically bricked it pretty badly and expected to be bet off it at which point, I happily release my hand. His check surprised (and worried) me.
When I developed a flush draw on the turn, I figured I'd bet and see if I could get some info from him. He flat called almost instantly (probably because the bet was so small looking back!).
On the river, when I checked, he potted quickly. This made the decision really quite hard. Obviously I discounted the 9 but I couldn't discount AA-JJ given the pre-flop action. After a lot of tanking, I let it go and he showed sweet FA.
Can I ever make this call for half my stack?
How should I have played this hand?
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HalfSugar - King Moderator
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Can't really say I like it. If you're going to open, just raise (you can limp behind limpers, but I might even like a raise to buy position and increase c-bet success vs. some limpers).
Flop I assume you're check-folding?
Turn I assume you're bet-folding? It's not terrible to take a shot here, but it does turn your hand into a bluff.
River I would fold in any tourney situation.
Flop I assume you're check-folding?
Turn I assume you're bet-folding? It's not terrible to take a shot here, but it does turn your hand into a bluff.
River I would fold in any tourney situation.
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xDiamond_CutteRx - Moderator
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xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:Flop I assume you're check-folding?
Oh yes
xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:Turn I assume you're bet-folding? It's not terrible to take a shot here, but it does turn your hand into a bluff.
Again yes to the bet-folding
xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:River I would fold in any tourney situation.
Why? Just so I know.........
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HalfSugar - King Moderator
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Folding the river just because the cost of being wrong is so much higher than the reward of being right in a tournament situation, where the chips you lose are worth more than the chips you win. Also because maintaining some semblance of fold equity with your stack is worth more in PLO than NLH.
In straight-up cash, this is usually a river fold, but I guess there's some guys you can bluff catch against if they play weird.
In straight-up cash, this is usually a river fold, but I guess there's some guys you can bluff catch against if they play weird.
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xDiamond_CutteRx - Moderator
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Raise or Fold PF I would prolly raise to gain position.
If I accidentally limped and then he raised it, either back raise and make it look like Aces or just muck it. He has position the entire hand and I don't think limp calling is a profitable strategy in this spot.
If I did play it how you did I would check/fold all streets, Unless it was a v small bet on the river.
If I accidentally limped and then he raised it, either back raise and make it look like Aces or just muck it. He has position the entire hand and I don't think limp calling is a profitable strategy in this spot.
If I did play it how you did I would check/fold all streets, Unless it was a v small bet on the river.
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crack - Posts: 2071
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Cheers for the feedback - I really am awful at Omaha it would seem
Playing any game other than holdem is like going back to being a holdem novice again although I like to believe that my pre-flop range in most non-holdem games is not too far off the mark. Saying that, Stud-8 still utterly confounds me
Playing any game other than holdem is like going back to being a holdem novice again although I like to believe that my pre-flop range in most non-holdem games is not too far off the mark. Saying that, Stud-8 still utterly confounds me
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