key decision in mtt.

[Ciso_B]

Ok, so I've been grinding away , not really had much resistance, but no big hands , so im like average stacked at start of hand.

No notes on the guy, when he checked to me, i thought about cehcking back, but that's so obvious to do in this day and age, and thought I'd try and get value by betting small.

Its weird tho, cos really, im not beating anything of value really right, and I didn't wanna just flat turn cos theres a billion in there and if hes bluffing with like 3 outs, I'd rather just win now etc. But, im fully aware my hand isn't big here.

Hows my line?

PokerStars Game #30286342939: Tournament #176962582, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (250/500) - 2009/07/09 20:33:31 ET
Table '176962582 87' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: seahawkfan1k (8980 in chips)
Seat 2: ephillips817 (23890 in chips)
Seat 3: chexonte (12676 in chips)
Seat 4: red stegal (1877 in chips)
Seat 6: Neab (17330 in chips)
Seat 7: chane2924 (12872 in chips)
Seat 8: bondsman (36155 in chips)
Seat 9: LYAIOS (16696 in chips)
seahawkfan1k: posts the ante 60
ephillips817: posts the ante 60
chexonte: posts the ante 60
red stegal: posts the ante 60
Neab: posts the ante 60
chane2924: posts the ante 60
bondsman: posts the ante 60
LYAIOS: posts the ante 60
bondsman: posts small blind 250
LYAIOS: posts big blind 500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Neab [Jc Td]
seahawkfan1k: folds
ephillips817: folds
chexonte: folds
red stegal: folds
Neab: raises 750 to 1250
chane2924: folds
bondsman: folds
LYAIOS: calls 750
*** FLOP *** [Jd 5c 5h]
LYAIOS: checks
Neab: bets 1200
LYAIOS: raises 1200 to 2400
a3smith is connected
Neab: calls 1200
*** TURN *** [Jd 5c 5h] [7d]
LYAIOS: bets 4000
Neab: raises 9620 to 13620 and is all-in
LYAIOS:

[miaowmiaowchowface]

terrible, raising is the worst option there are no worse hands that call for the most part. I would probably muck the turn, I give him credit with this line

[Ciso_B]

I'm never shoving flop or anythign like that eldar, but on turn , if hes bluffing jig is up if i just call twice anyway, no way he bluffs river. So , I have to make a decision for all my chips imo on turn.

I agree my hand is weakish, It's either Jx better, or A5 or something, overpair is unlikely, or a bluff.

I don't see how i can fold on flop tbh, but I definitely think the turn can be a fold, especially since i did call the min c/r.

I'd like to add htat although my hand is pretty weak when lookin at it from outside, we have to appreciate that Im active in late position and this is agood flop to c bet etc,(plus my c bet is pretty small here), he really never rates to have an overpair so its pretty clear cut, I'm either dead or have him dead (or 3 outs ish).
Top pair in position hu pot is pretty strong ya know


Neway, few more ppl comment and i ll let u know what he did and/or had.

[Muck]

overpair is unlikely,

I wouldn’t consider it that unlikely. I tend to play these limits and find lots of players who get greedy and slow play high PP’s.

The thing that concerns me here is the betting story. He’s called the pre-flop raise (I have something), then check raised you on the flop (I have you beat), then bets out the turn (the deception ended on the flop you know I have you beat now why let you take a free card to catch up).

The above thought process I think is reinforced because the texture of the board is unlikely to have connected with either of you (the 5’s and 7) so it’s mostly blank.

That’s just what I’m felling anyway. I’d have probably folded this after the flop raise fearing AJ, KJ, QJ or a PP.