kj early shove pretty short

[bluffie22]

I busted pretty often lately when shoving mediocre hands early and having around 10 bb; do u fold here? - mtt

PokerStars Game #46062050269: Tournament #317010497, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (75/150) - 2010/06/27 15:34:48 ET
Table '317010497 340' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: luckyno75 (1390 in chips)
Seat 2: gamblecrack (2565 in chips)
Seat 3: El-Toro94 (3863 in chips)
Seat 4: daddybig457 (8057 in chips)
Seat 5: Pris0n (4253 in chips)
Seat 6: bivil69 (2388 in chips)
Seat 7: afto73 (3790 in chips)
Seat 8: VeryProudPop (14005 in chips)
Seat 9: CH1PPinAway (3402 in chips)
luckyno75: posts the ante 20
gamblecrack: posts the ante 20
El-Toro94: posts the ante 20
daddybig457: posts the ante 20
Pris0n: posts the ante 20
bivil69: posts the ante 20
afto73: posts the ante 20
VeryProudPop: posts the ante 20
CH1PPinAway: posts the ante 20
afto73: posts small blind 75
VeryProudPop: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to luckyno75 [Kd Jd]
CH1PPinAway: folds
luckyno75: raises 1220 to 1370 and is all-in
gamblecrack: folds
El-Toro94: folds
daddybig457: folds
Pris0n: folds
bivil69: folds
afto73: calls 1295
VeryProudPop: calls 1220
*** FLOP *** [Qc 6s Jc]
afto73: bets 150
VeryProudPop: calls 150
*** TURN *** [Qc 6s Jc]
afto73: bets 150
VeryProudPop: calls 150
*** RIVER *** [Qc 6s Jc 8c]
afto73: bets 450
VeryProudPop: folds
Uncalled bet (450) returned to afto73
*** SHOW DOWN ***
afto73: shows [Ah Qs] (a pair of Queens)
afto73 collected 600 from side pot
luckyno75: shows [Kd Jd] (a pair of Jacks)
afto73 collected 4290 from main pot
luckyno75 finished the tournament in 3419th place

[jimmer]

I don't play many mtt's and i certainly don't go deep tht often, so don't read too much into my answer, but;

I think KJ from early position is not quite strong enough to raise it up all-in. If someone calls their hand is almost certainly beating yours and although there's only a couple of large stacks at the table, there's still alot of players to act after you.

The same scenario but sat at daddybig's seat and I might be more tempted.

Welcome to the forum btw. Hope you get the help you require

[bluffie22]

ty v much:)

[HalfSugar]

It's a good enough spot with the BB coming and such a stack.

[jimmer]

It's a good enough spot with the BB coming and such a stack.

2 points, both well made. I guess his stack size is key here. He has an M of 3 and it's still pretty early on in the tourney. This would suggest a push with KJ.

However, from experience I regularly get knocked out in this positiion. Does this mean an all in bet is still the right move? I was thinking about tightening up my game and trying to avoid these spots???

[HalfSugar]

Well the only reason to ever be in this spot is because of losing a pot right? There's no way you should ever have folded your way to this sort of position so assuming that's happened, I ship KJ here on tilt

In a nutshell, I can't answer your question very well because it's not a place I'd find myself with a regular state of mind. I can definitely state that KJ with an M of 3 is in insta-shove to no raise though. It's probably a shove to a raise too actually unless the raiser is an uber nit.

[StarlightCoast]

I think KJ from early position is not quite strong enough to raise it up all-in.

Even when the M factor is only 3? Seems to me when you are in desperation mode, aka M factor 5 or lower and i prefer to use an M of 10 to guage that, any 2 Broadway cards would do in this situation even QJ or QT.

[jeffonline]

You not only have blinds you have ante’s, whoopee KJs I’m all-in

[miaowmiaowchowface]

looks fine

[SDPokerDude]

You have less than 10 BBs, so the next hand will cost you about 15% of your stack. To win a tourney, you HAVE to win a few races, and this is that time. If you wait for the premium hand, you will be blinded down in no time (20% of your stack will be gone in the next 2 hands) so your FE will be next to nothing after this hand.

Push and pray.