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Legally, a woman can't be elected president

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Legally, a woman can't be elected president

Postby UrAteUp » Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:27 pm GMT

Legally, a woman can't be elected president

By DICK MARPLE
For the Monitor


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Most people believe not only that the 19th Amendment permitted women the right to vote but that since women serve in Congress, the courts and other offices of government, the office of president of the United States has been de-genderized.

Not true. This important legal question exists now and has not been constitutionally addressed. The language and syntax of the 19th Amendment merely removed the barriers that prevented women from voting. It did not identify women to be qualified to become elected president.

The language is clear. The 19th Amendment says: "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex."

We cannot read into the amendment something that is not there. Now, had the amendment said, "The right of citizens of the United States to vote or hold public office shall not be denied," it would have accomplished what the feminists think took place.

The Susan B. Anthony Amendment (as it was then known, because the words were actually drafted by the suffragist in 1875) passed in the House by a vote of 304 to 89. The Senate then passed it, 56 to 25. The text of both the House and Senate deliberately avoided any language that would allow or permit women the right to seek the highest office in the land! It was the considered opinion of senators on both sides of the aisle that if language de-genderized the presidency, the amendment's ratification by the necessary 36 states would be in great doubt.

Today's feminists believe the election process is an evolutionary process, legalized by common practice and that someday a woman will be president. They are convinced that since women have run for the office, the male-gendered presidential office has been neutered .
Not so. They will be challenged, and a Supreme Court ruling on the language will be necessary. At the very least a constitutional amendment to change the language will be required.


So then Hillary can't be voted in legally.
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Postby Felting » Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:56 pm GMT

....account of sex.

doesn't say .....account of their sex.


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Postby golddog » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:09 pm GMT

So we've established that Dick Marple is an idiot and/or can't read and/or is too lazy to do the simplest research, besides that anything?

http://www.presidentsusa.net/qualifications.html

Now, I'm no constitutional scholar, but the use of the word "person" in the constitution (assuming the above link is accurate) pretty much kills whatever argument he was trying to make.

Anyway, it's starting to look more and more like it's not going to matter, unless Obama really messes up.
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Postby Sean_in_NJ » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:24 pm GMT

golddog wrote:Now, I'm no constitutional scholar, but the use of the word "person" in the constitution (assuming the above link is accurate) pretty much kills whatever argument he was trying to make.


It is, and it does. In fact, the 19th amendment wouldn't have even been necessary if it weren't for the wording of the 14th.
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Postby UrAteUp » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:25 pm GMT

golddog wrote:So we've established that Dick Marple is an idiot and/or can't read and/or is too lazy to do the simplest research, besides that anything?

http://www.presidentsusa.net/qualifications.html


Actually Dick is former NH legislator. Scarry thought that a legislator is this stupid. His peers actually refer to him as a doofus and dumbass. This is just one of the many gems he has out.

Now, I'm no constitutional scholar, but the use of the word "person" in the constitution (assuming the above link is accurate) pretty much kills whatever argument he was trying to make.


I have to tend to agree with you. If you want to scrutinize the constitution that hard then we might find all kinds of things that might not be allowed. I think more then anything Mr. Marple shows his true ignorance and must enjoy the names he has earned by his peers.
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Postby Dave B » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:32 pm GMT

It SHOULD be a law that Hillary cant be elected president.
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Postby xDiamond_CutteRx » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:41 pm GMT

I'm not sure most scholars would share this legal interpretation... but it probably won't be an issue this election anyway. Obama v. McCain is the overwhelmingly likely matchup.
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Postby Felting » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:55 pm GMT

Dave B wrote:It SHOULD be a law that Hillary cant be elected president.


We have that already, its called the law of nature.
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Postby snoogins47 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:49 pm GMT

I have to echo Jon Stewart;s brilliance from the Oscars

"Normally when you see a black man or a woman president, an asteroid is about to hit the statue of liberty."

Last time Ive been privy to information regarding a female presidency, Edward James Olmos was trying to protect the last of us from the Cylons... dumb broad, clearly all her fault. Let's put a penis in the white house in 08!
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Postby UrAteUp » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:27 am GMT

snoogins47 wrote:Let's put a penis in the white house in 08!


ROFL...we have several in there now Snoo. One more won't be noticeable. The biggest dick we have in the White House is Dick Chaney.

Honestly I wouldn't care if we got a male or female president. I just want someone who can and will do the job admirably, professionaly and without 4 years of BS and bafoonary that we have gotten in the last 8 years.
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Postby gumbie » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:46 pm GMT

UrAteUp wrote:Honestly I wouldn't care if we got a male or female president. I just want someone who can and will do the job admirably, professionaly and without 4 years of BS and bafoonary that we have gotten in the last 8 years.


Looks like you are out of luck.
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Postby UrAteUp » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:11 am GMT

gumbie wrote:
UrAteUp wrote:Honestly I wouldn't care if we got a male or female president. I just want someone who can and will do the job admirably, professionaly and without 4 years of BS and bafoonary that we have gotten in the last 8 years.


Looks like you are out of luck.


Most likely... :(

SeanNJ for 2008/ UAU as his VP.

Need we say more?

Edit: Wait...I had to edit this. After remembering Sean's Quickbooks problem I don't think he could balance a budget. So lets make it UAU president and SeanNJ VP... :lol:
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Postby Sean_in_NJ » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:51 am GMT

UrAteUp wrote:After remembering Sean's Quickbooks problem I don't think he could balance a budget.


My EBITDA is good, my records are impeccable. The only thing of concern is how I'm spending that discretionary income.
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Postby snoogins47 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:42 am GMT

Sean_in_NJ wrote:
UrAteUp wrote:After remembering Sean's Quickbooks problem I don't think he could balance a budget.


My EBITDA is good, my records are impeccable. The only thing of concern is how I'm spending that discretionary income.


I'd also be worried at how hawkish you'd likely end up being after a few drinks and a bad beat or two.

"Mother f*cker just two-outed me. Donnie: begin Operation: Carpet-Bomb the Shit Out Of Monaco."
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Postby tame_deuces » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:54 am GMT

snoogins47 wrote:
Sean_in_NJ wrote:
UrAteUp wrote:After remembering Sean's Quickbooks problem I don't think he could balance a budget.


My EBITDA is good, my records are impeccable. The only thing of concern is how I'm spending that discretionary income.


I'd also be worried at how hawkish you'd likely end up being after a few drinks and a bad beat or two.

"Mother f*ck just two-outed me. Donnie: begin Operation: Carpet-Bomb the Shit Out Of Monaco."


We haven't had a good conspiracy thread in months. If Sean becomes president he'll get the Illuminati to rig the games obv.

Zomg, maybe he already IS president and just playing us for fools. It all fits to well!
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