Life as a bot
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Life as a bot
I had just jumped on a UB .25/.50 NL Holdem table last night and started winning many hands early (like 23%). I was just getting good hole cards over all at the start and seeing free/dirt cheap flops in the blinds which fed me good cards even with poor hole cards (I made trip 7's w/72, trip 6's w/86o, etc..on flop.). So, a few of these players started speculating via chat, "Bot playing", "Must be a bot", "f*ing UB" etc....They did not leave though. I had not chatted at all to that point and figured why start now. Hell, let them think I'm a bot if they want. I'll try to make it work 4 me. Sure enough, I started to bluff raise more and more and these 2 players and others would not stay in at all, they just gave up whatever they had already fed the pot to that point. I was laughing at would get away with. Now whether they truely beleived I was a bot or were just respecting me too much I don't really know. What I do know is I knocked one out with a A high flush made on turn (already had Q high-paired w/ my AQs hole anyway). Took a $43 pot on that. The other guy left soon after. After that the table turned over quickly with new players. The good cards and respect quickly ran out. I made a few foolish bets, then called it a night b4 I blew all my winnings.
Now I don't usaully play alot of full bluffs, especially online, but
thought the bot accusation was too funny and could be used to my advantage. It was for a period. I want to be called a bot more often.
Now I don't usaully play alot of full bluffs, especially online, but
thought the bot accusation was too funny and could be used to my advantage. It was for a period. I want to be called a bot more often.
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PuckJunkieNY - Posts: 762
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saper88aa wrote:Kinda like a casino paying people to sit in the games and fed the action
do they really do this? if so... how to i get that job!!!
how awesome would it be to get paid to play poker.... and by paid i mean on a salary... not playing pro and trying to earn a buck.
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ORGrinder - Posts: 1468
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but your not a gift horse... that wouldn't be to the casinos advantage.
remember... casinos are there to make a profit. they do this by employing any and all tactics... including psychological ones.
i was a psych major in college... one of the very interesting thing we learned, is that people are willing to spend more and risk more if they are rewarded only randomly.
meaning... if a guy sits at a poker table and loses all the time... he plays less and spends less. but by that same measure... if he were to sit at a table and win all the time... he'd still play less (more than if he lost obviously), than if he only one randomly part of the time. it's almost as if the not knowing, and wanting... leads to longer play and more spending of cash.
think about slot machines. we all know how crappy the odds are at winning those right? and we all know that in reality, there's no such thing as a hot machine or a cold machine. we've all watched the travel chanel and heard the manufacturer talk about how it's completely random... yet look at the billions the casinos are making off of them. it's all about inconsistant reward. the machines take more than they pay... but they pay at a radom enough time that it keeps the player suckered in.
so if i can get paid a sallary to lay down a few pots, and take more than a few pots... how fun would that be! i don't think it would hurt my game at all.
remember... casinos are there to make a profit. they do this by employing any and all tactics... including psychological ones.
i was a psych major in college... one of the very interesting thing we learned, is that people are willing to spend more and risk more if they are rewarded only randomly.
meaning... if a guy sits at a poker table and loses all the time... he plays less and spends less. but by that same measure... if he were to sit at a table and win all the time... he'd still play less (more than if he lost obviously), than if he only one randomly part of the time. it's almost as if the not knowing, and wanting... leads to longer play and more spending of cash.
think about slot machines. we all know how crappy the odds are at winning those right? and we all know that in reality, there's no such thing as a hot machine or a cold machine. we've all watched the travel chanel and heard the manufacturer talk about how it's completely random... yet look at the billions the casinos are making off of them. it's all about inconsistant reward. the machines take more than they pay... but they pay at a radom enough time that it keeps the player suckered in.
so if i can get paid a sallary to lay down a few pots, and take more than a few pots... how fun would that be! i don't think it would hurt my game at all.
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ORGrinder - Posts: 1468
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You are simplifing a bit . . . the *interval* of reinforcment should be random . . . the *overall* trend of reinforcement should remain positive for optimal control. . .
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Hey Keats. Yes the casinos do pay people to sit at the table to attract others to get more action. They are called prop players. The only problem is that they only pay you like two big bets an hour and you have to be there for a certain amount of time. So think of those nights when you're just not getting a card to save your life. You've run through you're prop money in thirty minutes and you're stuck there for another few hours spending your own money. Just someting to think about.
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ballbp - Posts: 1007
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My friend was a prop at our local card room. It's not very fun at all. You get a feeling of being trapped, and it can be very uncomfortable. They paid him about $25 an hour which is pretty good wages, but it really doesn't do much. Because if your loosing, it eats up your pay in no time, and if your winning, is $25 an hour much of a bonus?
Also they don't pay you to play from 5-10 at night, they pay you for the 1-6 am slot when there arent many people playing, and the guys there are usually the die hards who actually know how to play, and your at a short handed table. Do you really wanna be forced to play short handed against people who are in a card room at 4 am? I don't.
Also they don't pay you to play from 5-10 at night, they pay you for the 1-6 am slot when there arent many people playing, and the guys there are usually the die hards who actually know how to play, and your at a short handed table. Do you really wanna be forced to play short handed against people who are in a card room at 4 am? I don't.
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