Line check, AK vs. BB

[Felting]

Seat 1: TITO LION (945 in chips)
Seat 2: FeltingYou (2765 in chips)
Seat 3: 1 Card Mako (1890 in chips)
Seat 4: keanm (2415 in chips)
Seat 5: jones1414 (1430 in chips)
Seat 6: pigger92 (1780 in chips)
Seat 7: fhbertoncini (1005 in chips)
Seat 8: fadava (2305 in chips)
Seat 9: elneila (1650 in chips)
1 Card Mako: posts small blind 15
keanm: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FeltingYou [Ad Kd]
jones1414: folds
pigger92: folds
fhbertoncini: calls 30
fadava: folds
elneila: folds
TITO LION: folds
FeltingYou: raises 90 to 120
1 Card Mako: folds
keanm: calls 90
fhbertoncini: folds
*** FLOP *** [6s Jc Ac]
keanm: checks
FeltingYou: bets 270
keanm: calls 270
*** TURN *** [6s Jc Ac] [6h]
keanm: checks
FeltingYou: bets 750
keanm: calls 750
*** RIVER *** [6s Jc Ac 6h] [7c]
keanm: bets 1275 and is all-in

[kompis]

line check? i dunno what that means but u said u playing micro donnks on irc
this is an easy fold tbh
people at low steaks dont make clever bluffs they make bad calls

[Felting]

line check? i dunno what that means but u said u playing micro donnks on irc
this is an easy fold tbh
people at low steaks dont make clever bluffs they make bad calls

what i meant was bet sizing each street

[miaowmiaowchowface]

ez fold, wp

[buckeyes77]

Obviously he hit his flush and it's an easy fold. The draw was clear as soon as he called your 750 on the turn, too bad the clubs came on the river.

[buckeyes77]

To add to the previous post, since this is small stakes I guess you could also put him on a weak ace after the turn. However, the flush becomes clear after his push on the river.

Like kompis said, it's unlikely he called on the turn with the intention of making a bluff on the river if a club fell.

[buckeyes77]

I guess A7 is also a good assumption, either way you are beat.

[UrAteUp]

If this was a lower buyin game then hell villian could have a set and put you on TPTK. Either way lay it down here and come back with more push later.

[odlozilik]

Nobody would call here, really? We are getting almost 3:1. I think it's a "bluff" at least once in 3 hands.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

actually I don't think a call is terrible at all, in fact I'm starting to lean towards it, most fish at these stakes would prefer to slowplay a rivered monster yeah?

[supafrey]

actually I don't think a call is terrible at all, in fact I'm starting to lean towards it, most fish at these stakes would prefer to slowplay a rivered monster yeah?

Not really with that ace on board. They have a flush they put you on ak and push 9/10.

And odzo there's a very big difference between pot odds and tourney life...

[JackB03]

Seat 1: TITO LION (945 in chips)
Seat 2: FeltingYou (2765 in chips)
Seat 3: 1 Card Mako (1890 in chips)
Seat 4: keanm (2415 in chips)
Seat 5: jones1414 (1430 in chips)
Seat 6: pigger92 (1780 in chips)
Seat 7: fhbertoncini (1005 in chips)
Seat 8: fadava (2305 in chips)
Seat 9: elneila (1650 in chips)
1 Card Mako: posts small blind 15
keanm: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FeltingYou [Ad Kd]
jones1414: folds
pigger92: folds
fhbertoncini: calls 30
fadava: folds
elneila: folds
TITO LION: folds
FeltingYou: raises 90 to 120
1 Card Mako: folds
keanm: calls 90
fhbertoncini: folds
*** FLOP *** [6s Jc Ac]
keanm: checks
FeltingYou: bets 270
keanm: calls 270
*** TURN *** [6s Jc Ac] [6h]
keanm: checks
FeltingYou: bets 750
keanm: calls 750
*** RIVER *** [6s Jc Ac 6h] [7c]
keanm: bets 1275 and is all-in

I think some people may disagree with me on this, but its a basic hand that many people really screw up. Looking at the blinds, im guessing its early in the tournment, and with your stack, you have alittle over 92BBs. So your playing almost deep stack poker. So there is plenty of room to maneuver. Your in good position, with a strong hand. Pre-flop, it was a great bet. Flop was generally a good flop. But your pot-sized bet I think was generally large for the type of hand you got. If you were worried about the straight or flush draws out there, a bet of $150 would have knocked all those draws out. And if they were on a draw and called, they are making a mistake. But you made a pot-size bet and he called. Now something like that, he had to have something. An Ace weaker than yours, a set and maybe two pair AJ. By looking at your hand(top pair, top kicker), your hand isnt really big. Its considered a small hand. So generally, you should keep the pot small. Yea i know some of you are telling me im wrong, but in NL, im really right.

But lets move forward. The turn came and paired the board. Not knowing how this guy played, im guessing the 6 didnt help unless he had a set already. Now he checks to you, and you bet out $750 into a $825 pot. Another pot-sized bet, and your stack is down to $1625. You have put in more than half your stack already with top pair, top kicker. Again, you want to keep this pot small. Lose less with your losing hands, and make alot with your winning hands. If your worried about him on a draw and try knocking him off the hand, why bet so much? Also, why bet at all? Theres about a 30% chance that he is even on a draw and another 30% to hit. So your looking at him on a draw and hitting his draw at less than 10%. Also, his call on the flop shouldve put red flags up, telling you he has something. Checking wouldve been the smarter choice here. In this situation, your either way ahead or way behind, so thats a EV of 0. So why bet?

The river is a 7 of clubs which couldve made his flush or couldve met nothing. If he didnt have the flush, he has probably been ahead of you the whole way. He bet his remaining stack, that would cripple you to the bone if you called and lost. His bet is also giving you 2.1-to-1 pot odds if you did call. Not extremely good pot odds, but they are good in most situations. Obviously you should fold.

But, in my opinion, a bet of $150 on the flop, check on the turn, and fold on the river wouldve been a clear choice. Instead of losing half your stack with $1675 left, you would have $2495 if you played it the way I mentioned. The way you played the hand was a hand for something big. Like a set or better. A set is huge on the flop and getting the pot big is generally what you wanna do unless their is massive flushes or straights, etc... This is just something general to think about next time. I understand, playing against an super-aggressive or weak agressive or even a rock, you can make changes in my advice. But in general, I see this being the best possible way you couldve played it.

[Jauron]

^^

Checking turn is terrible without reads, you can debate the size of the turn bet but it's not out of line. Preflop and flop are fine. River is a fold.

[JackB03]

Why put more money in your hand and risk making the pot bigger, when all you have is top pair? Checking the turn is generally the best play. Either betting the flop/ check on turn or checking on flop/ betting the turn, is pretty straight forward in NL. Top pair is not a big hand, so why make a big pot?? Your losing more than you should. Thats when you edge gets smaller. In NL cash games and early round of tournaments, depending on your strategy, this is general.

[JackB03]

Even if he put this guy on a weak player that calls anything with everything or an aggressive player that calls alot and raises alot, that is still a bad play. Even those players come up with big hands. Are willing to risk almost your whole stack for that? And the bet on the turn made him lose more than half your stack. You making the variance go up and down more than it should. Sure if he bet half the pot on the turn, you lose little more than 25% of your stack on this hand. Your EV on the turn is 0, in this situation, because he is either way way ahead or way way behind. So why bet and risk that?