Line check: Bet the river?

[ErinJeff]

Villain was a complete unknown as I was new to the table. Villain c/c my unimproved cbet and I shut down on the turn. Anyone lead out into the flush turn or set river? Is this a case where I only get called by hands that crush me?

POKERSTARS GAME #16844738684: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/04/19 - 14:22:54 (ET)
Table 'Emma V' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ncstaten99 ($20.35 in chips)
Seat 2: abg2quid ($14.40 in chips)
Seat 3: zeberdee29 ($34.90 in chips)
Seat 4: Benz Covey ($10.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Swanpig ($38.75 in chips)
Seat 7: howlkal ($27.45 in chips)
Seat 8: lepsyl ($24.40 in chips)
Seat 9: ErinJeff ($26.40 in chips)
Benz Covey: posts small blind $0.10
lorcam1908: is sitting out
Swanpig: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ErinJeff [9h 9d]
lorcam1908 leaves the table
howlkal: folds
lepsyl: folds
ErinJeff: raises $0.75 to $1
ncstaten99: folds
abg2quid: folds
zeberdee29: folds
Benz Covey: folds
Swanpig: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [4s 5s Ad]
Swanpig: checks
ErinJeff: bets $1.50
Swanpig: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [4s 5s Ad] [3s]
Swanpig: checks
ErinJeff: checks
*** RIVER *** [4s 5s Ad 3s] [9c]
Swanpig: checks
ErinJeff: ??

[miaowmiaowchowface]

Bet roughly the pot and hope he calls with nothing for the sake of it, or an ace or something =/

[TheSalche]

You know this river isn't a 4 flush right? If it was the 9s I'd probably check behind since you usually only get called by a flush on a 4 flush board.

As played bet 2/3 pot for value, he's got a 2 like 5% of the time, flush sometimes and ace/two pair the majority of the time. I'm folding to anything higher than a min-raise.

[Gunslinger]

Definitely bet this river for value. At these stakes, players are rarely checking the turn AND river with strong hands, looking for fancy check-raises. Especially since you checked behind on the turn, it's too big of a risk for them that you would just check the river also.

Similarly, I don't see players calling huge river bets here with bluff-catcher hands. I would bet only half the pot at most and hope villain calls with his marginal hand. If you happen to get raised, then you've lost less money.

[ErinJeff]

You know this river isn't a 4 flush right? If it was the 9s I'd probably check behind since you usually only get called by a flush on a 4 flush board.

All the black cards are the same, right? I edited the OP. Thanks for the catch.

[ErinJeff]

I think I'm responding to myself

This hand is much less interesting with a 3 flush/4 straight board, instead of the 4 flush/4 straight board that I thought it was. I'll go ahead and post results and you can flame me for the bad post or the bad play.

I ended up checking the river in this hand because I thought only better hands would call (or raise). I was right (on this hand), but from a value perspective this is maybe -EV.

POKERSTARS GAME #16844738684: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/04/19 - 14:22:54 (ET)
Table 'Emma V' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ncstaten99 ($20.35 in chips)
Seat 2: abg2quid ($14.40 in chips)
Seat 3: zeberdee29 ($34.90 in chips)
Seat 4: Benz Covey ($10.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Swanpig ($38.75 in chips)
Seat 7: howlkal ($27.45 in chips)
Seat 8: lepsyl ($24.40 in chips)
Seat 9: ErinJeff ($26.40 in chips)
Benz Covey: posts small blind $0.10
lorcam1908: is sitting out
Swanpig: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ErinJeff [9h 9d]
lorcam1908 leaves the table
howlkal: folds
lepsyl: folds
ErinJeff: raises $0.75 to $1
ncstaten99: folds
abg2quid: folds
zeberdee29: folds
Benz Covey: folds
Swanpig: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [4s 5s Ad]
Swanpig: checks
ErinJeff: bets $1.50
Swanpig: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [4s 5s Ad] [3s]
Swanpig: checks
ErinJeff: checks
*** RIVER *** [4s 5s Ad 3s] [9c]
Swanpig: checks
ErinJeff: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Swanpig: shows [As 8s] (a flush, Ace high)
ErinJeff: shows [9h 9d] (three of a kind, Nines)
Swanpig collected $4.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.10 | Rake $0.25
Board [4s 5s Ad 3s 9c]
Seat 1: ncstaten99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: abg2quid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: zeberdee29 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Benz Covey (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Swanpig (big blind) showed [As 8s] and won ($4.85) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 7: howlkal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: lepsyl folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ErinJeff showed [9h 9d] and lost with three of a kind, Nines

[Jauron]

lol @Swanpig

[TheSalche]

If he's stupid enough to play an uber strong hand like that, I'm giving him a bet on the river. He should have c/r'ed that flop, or bet the river.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

LOL wow nice soulread

[Yozman]

awful play from villain

[MrDarling]

...At these stakes, players are rarely checking the turn AND river with strong hands

Actually I totally disagree, bad players do tend to slow play big hands much more often then good players.
That said, I still vbet this river. After checking behind the turn you are called by any A and sometimes even TT-KK kind of hands.

[Jauron]

I value bet this almost always as played. I might even get it all in if I got check raised for my stack.

[tame_deuces]

Yes, valuebet the river. As others have said you'll get looked up a lot by weaker hands.