lol deep spot

[miaowmiaowchowface]

Seat 1: TavNasty1 ($488.55 in chips)
Seat 2: titko23 ($118 in chips)
Seat 3: Deldar182 ($440.95 in chips)
Seat 4: nowa3076 ($126.55 in chips)
Seat 5: bb497157 ($293.25 in chips)
Seat 6: TSUCHI ($200 in chips)
TSUCHI: posts small blind $1
TavNasty1: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Deldar182 [Ad Qs 5s Ah]
titko23: folds
Deldar182: raises $5 to $7
nowa3076: folds
bb497157: raises $17 to $24
TSUCHI: folds
TavNasty1: calls $22
Deldar182: raises $73 to $97
bb497157: folds
TavNasty1: calls $73
*** FLOP *** [7d 3c 5h]
TavNasty1: checks
Deldar182: bets $88
TavNasty1: calls $88
*** TURN *** [7d 3c 5h] [Qh]
TavNasty1: checks
Deldar182: bets $175
TavNasty1: calls $175
*** RIVER *** [7d 3c 5h Qh] [8c]
TavNasty1: bets $128.55 and is all-in

EIGHTY TO CALL
guy is a superfish and could be calling the flop with any pair tbh, or anything resembling a draw. same for the turn. do we ever give him worse two pair on the river for astounding odds? He seems quite passive, he is doing a lot of check calling, so I wouldn't expect him to have much bluffing capacity but who knows with these retards...

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

Your flop bet is far too small. You should either be checking or betting pot after getting in that much preflop.

[Ciso_B]

tbh , I don't like 4 bettin so much here, cos you own yourself... most omaha players will know you have AA and can outplay you after the flop.

I like 4 betting if you can get it in , cos you have an edge, but here, meh, you're pretty deep.

Villain here had a pretty spazzy line imo, i guess it could be consistent with some retarded 6-9, I can't say what I'd do on river...but im pretty sure I woulda checked flop, usually with AA in your hand, I'd prefer some kind of draw to back up the c bet, cos otherwise you just have an overpair which is dog sh1t in omaha.

To call though... umm, you have to ask yourself does he value beat weaker than Qs up, Qs and 5s. If he does, then you prolly gotta call. Although a weaker 2 pair than Qs up isn't consistent with this line imo. Most players wont value bet 8s up after you flop and turn bet.

What happen neway eldar?

[heyitscorey]

yeah I don't like the 4bet esp with a marginal AAxx.

You are getting value from worse hands but it plays not so well postflop. Its like in NLHE A9o is stronger then 87s but i'd much rather have 87s since it plays so well postflop.

As played you gotta call the river with your two pair he'll be shoving random hearts+ pair hands that didn't get there trying to rep the str8.

[crack]

If you can get at least half your stack in on the flop I don't mind 4 betting. You should pot the flop btw.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

hmmmm i dno i was ok with the flop bet because i can control the size of the pot effectively, and i don't want to get it out of control, this is a tactic i am commonly using vs fish. perhaps it doesn't really apply as much in PLO.

I think the 4bet is almost mandatory vs a tard, it won't be that hard to outplay him postflop i think, although i understand how it is hard to play postflop.

if i remember correctly he had like Q89j or something, some weird 2 pair that beat me (this was a while ago)

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

hmmmm i dno i was ok with the flop bet because i can control the size of the pot effectively, and i don't want to get it out of control, this is a tactic i am commonly using vs fish. perhaps it doesn't really apply as much in PLO.

The pot is already out of control when over 1/5 of the effective stacks go in preflop, because even a half-pot bet makes it very easy to get all-in on a subsequent street. "Deep" is very relative when there is a 4-bet preflop, because even 300 BB stacks can be chopped down very quickly in terms of % of the pot.