Massive river overbet.

[odlozilik]

Stage #1087029522: Holdem No Limit $0.50 - 2008-10-03 12:46:42 (ET)

Villain is (probably) a solid player, no special reads though.

Table: KANKAKEE (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer

Seat 3 - DAFIL ($50 in chips)
Seat 4 - BIGCOOLD86 ($19.50 in chips)
Seat 5 - DOCTOR8 ($77.05 in chips)
Seat 6 - ROGER_MELLIE ($123.95 in chips)
Seat 1 - ODLOZILIK ($96.75 in chips)
Seat 2 - DUCKDRY ($16.35 in chips)

BIGCOOLD86 - Posts small blind $0.25
DOCTOR8 - Posts big blind $0.50

*** POCKET CARDS ***

Dealt to ODLOZILIK [Kh Jh]

ROGER_MELLIE - Folds
ODLOZILIK - Raises $1.50 to $1.50
DUCKDRY - Folds
DAFIL - Folds
BIGCOOLD86 - Folds
DOCTOR8 - Calls $1

*** FLOP *** [4s Jc 9h]

DOCTOR8 - Checks
ODLOZILIK - Bets $2.50
DOCTOR8 - Calls $2.50

*** TURN *** [4s Jc 9h] [5h]

DOCTOR8 - Checks
ODLOZILIK - Bets $5
DOCTOR8 - Calls $5

*** RIVER *** [4s Jc 9h 5h] [Kc]

DOCTOR8 - Bets $66
ODLOZILIK - ??

[miaowmiaowchowface]

QT at least 90% of the time, fold

[odlozilik]

QT at least 90% of the time, fold

90%? Come on, and that's the almost only realistic hand which beats me.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

QT at least 90% of the time, fold

90%? Come on, and that's the almost only realistic hand which beats me.

ok , 95

[odlozilik]

QT at least 90% of the time, fold

90%? Come on, and that's the almost only realistic hand which beats me.

ok , 95

Well, I was really lucky then to hit the 5% case :

*** RIVER *** [4s Jc 9h 5h] [Kc]

DOCTOR8 - Bets $66
ODLOZILIK - Calls $66

*** SHOW DOWN ***

DOCTOR8 - Shows [6d 6h] (One pair, sixes)

ODLOZILIK - Shows [Kh Jh] (Two Pair, kings and jacks)

ODLOZILIK Collects $146.75 from main pot

[miaowmiaowchowface]

obv i did not factor in the bet sizing tell !

im prolly especially overpessimistic because i payed off an overbet like this a few days ago...

[HalfSugar]

Betting $66 with 66 is genius, I must write that one down.

[odlozilik]

obv i did not factor in the bet sizing tell !

im prolly especially overpessimistic because i payed off an overbet like this a few days ago...

Probably not cheap at your stakes...

[miaowmiaowchowface]

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to H [Td 8c]
H: raises $150 to $200
V: raises $250 to $450
H: calls $250
*** FLOP *** [9c 7c Kc]
V: checks
H: bets $600
V: calls $600
*** TURN *** [9c 7c Kc] [6s]
V: checks
H: bets $2000
V: calls $2000
*** RIVER *** [9c 7c Kc 6s] [Qd]
V: bets $9804 and is all-in
H: calls $8354 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1450) returned to V
*** SHOW DOWN ***
V: shows [Ac Jc] (a flush, Ace high)
H: mucks hand
V collected $22807 from pot


Cost me bigtime... but in the heat of the moment I called pretty quickly, realising how much of a moron I was

also heres some other experience with betsizing tells

Dealt to H [4d 4c]
: folds
: folds
V: raises $40 to $60
: folds
: folds
H: calls $50
: folds
*** FLOP *** [4h 7d 6h]
H: bets $80
V: calls $80
*** TURN *** [4h 7d 6h] [4s]
H: bets $260
V: calls $260
*** RIVER *** [4h 7d 6h 4s] [Kh]
H: bets $4444
V: calls $1667 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($2777) returned to H
*** SHOW DOWN ***
H: shows [4d 4c] (four of a kind, Fours)
V: mucks hand
H collected $4151 from pot


clearly my opponent wasnt as talented as you!

[Yozman]

villain should have known u had quad 4s. u bet $4444, biggest tell everz

[odlozilik]

Well, I actually didn't realize playing with numbers until Geno mentioned it. Yeah, my villain bet 66 but not all in, there remained about 1.5 bucks in his stack, I wondered why...
Miaow, If you considered my case 95% nuts, how much is your case then? 98%? And any JT is beating you too...
But that your's 4444 bet is phenomenal.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

Well, I actually didn't realize playing with numbers until Geno mentioned it. Yeah, my villain bet 66 but not all in, there remained about 1.5 bucks in his stack, I wondered why...
Miaow, If you considered my case 95% nuts, how much is your case then? 98%? And any JT is beating you too...
But that your's 4444 bet is phenomenal.

btw one thing I tend to notice is when ppl leave a dollar or 2 in their stack and are fish, they're usually bluffing. no idea why. That fact may just incline me to ccall, but I still never really expect to see anything but the nuts.

For the hand I showed, he never really has JT there, but because of the fact he timed down a bit on the turn and autoshoved the river I should have really picked up that it was some sort of weirdo plan of stacking me. Also this particular fish is relatively nitty on river decisions, especially deep I'm guessing. Still, if you saw how he donated the rest of the money to me you might understand why I called!

[tame_deuces]

I remember a time on some pokersite where I used this slider thing to bluff on the river, but I didn't slide it long enough - so I had like 2 bucks left of a stack of 50.

The villain who covered shoved on top of that.

Now what was so annoying was that he was on super-monkey tilt and I knew extremely well he didn't have shit - which was why I bluffed, but I had like a 5 high in my hand.

A very humbling and embarrassing poker moment.

[kingetje]

I remember a time on some pokersite where I used this slider thing to bluff on the river, but I didn't slide it long enough - so I had like 2 bucks left of a stack of 50.

The villain who covered shoved on top of that.

Now what was so annoying was that he was on super-monkey tilt and I knew extremely well he didn't have shit - which was why I bluffed, but I had like a 5 high in my hand.

A very humbling and embarrassing poker moment.

hahahah

[MrDarling]

someone did it to me the other day. He c/r me on the flop. pot turn and over bet river leaving $2.65 behind (in a $800 pot) I just couldn't fold my KK as his line didn't make sense and when I shoved for the last $2.65 he started cursing in the chat. At least he was decent enough to call with his Q high getting over 400-1 on his money.