Middle set on ultra action

[odlozilik]

Stage #1039688993: Holdem No Limit $0.50 - 2008-07-30 13:10:41 (ET)

Table: KNIK AVE (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer

Seat 8 - ODLOZILIK ($100.55 in chips)
Seat 9 - ORIGINALDAVE ($44.13 in chips)
Seat 1 - GETTINGLARGE ($96.25 in chips)
Seat 2 - TEACHCPS ($42.90 in chips)
Seat 3 - CFASTING ($106.70 in chips)
Seat 4 - SKYEELLA ($115.70 in chips)
Seat 5 - AAMELI ($99.25 in chips)
Seat 6 - JOHN1BASEDOW ($93.03 in chips)
Seat 7 - FIRECLOWN ($19.52 in chips)

ORIGINALDAVE - Posts small blind $0.25
GETTINGLARGE - Posts big blind $0.50

*** POCKET CARDS ***

Dealt to ODLOZILIK [7h 7s]

TEACHCPS - Folds
CFASTING - Calls $0.50
SKYEELLA - Folds
AAMELI - Folds
JOHN1BASEDOW - Folds
FIRECLOWN - Calls $0.50
ODLOZILIK - Calls $0.50
ORIGINALDAVE - Calls $0.25
GETTINGLARGE - Checks

*** FLOP *** [6s 10s 7c]

ORIGINALDAVE - Checks
GETTINGLARGE - Bets $2
CFASTING - Folds
FIRECLOWN - Raises $4 to $4
ODLOZILIK - Raises $10 to $10
ORIGINALDAVE - Folds
GETTINGLARGE - Raises $34.50 to $36.50
FIRECLOWN - Folds
ODLOZILIK - ??

[Ensano]

if you're not ready to push then you have no business seeing the flop....

[Garoen]

why no raise preflop? 89 is easily in any villains range as it two spades.

[odlozilik]

why no raise preflop? 89 is easily in any villains range as it two spades.

I don't like to raise here after 2 limpers on the table full of calling stations as NL50 here mostly is.

[odlozilik]

if you're not ready to push then you have no business seeing the flop....

The pot is raised 3 times on the flop, that's seldom to see. Furthermore, I forgot to say villain is a solid player.

[Jauron]

I'd be raising on the button preflop.

I'm pushing here even 200BB deep, we have a re-draw if against straight and 10-10 is just unlucky. I think you need more than "solid player" to lay this down.

[Ensano]

if you're not ready to push then you have no business seeing the flop....

The pot is raised 3 times on the flop, that's seldom to see. Furthermore, I forgot to say villain is a solid player.

even if villian is a solid player... 66 is just as likely as TT...

so if you were in this situation and villian looks you right in the eye and says, " I have a set."

I still say you have to call... it's 50/50 he'd have TT/66 and with the extra in the pot you have to take your chances...

besides... TT raises PF.. and 89 you have the redraw against...

[Kemics]

i dont like it but im getting my chips in the middle here.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

1. Isolate preflop almost 100% of times
2. get it in

[supafrey]

there is no valuable discussion to be taken from these kinds of hands

[Kemics]

there is no valuable discussion to be taken from these kinds of hands

no more or less than there is from your post

[odlozilik]

i dont like it but im getting my chips in the middle here.

That was exactly my feeling. I simply KNEW he has 89. But how could I fold this? What if I was wrong or I fill up? I think realistically 66 was the only hand I could beat, but 89 is twice more probable to happen. I am still not sure would have been the fold excellent laydown or bad play.
So I have pushed, hated that, lost to 8c9c unimproved.

[supafrey]

there is no valuable discussion to be taken from these kinds of hands

no more or less than there is from your post

that's because it's in a thread where we have a set, no super crazy reads, and this exact subject has been beaten to death about a thousand times here. this is results oriented useless talk and impossible for us to do without tons of info that's not transferable through online forums.

[odlozilik]

I know, the set is basically almost unfoldable on the flop, but I would consider this situation a little bit special; this is limped 5 way pot with the action I rarely see and I think villain has better hand than me on the flop too often.
The question might be: would you fold if villain showed you 89?

[miaowmiaowchowface]

there is no valuable discussion to be taken from these kinds of hands

have to agree