Odds to call?
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Odds to call?
Hey guys, I figured I had a fair few outs on this hand. I ended up folding because I was unsure, but what were my odds here, and was it correct to fold?
Full Tilt Poker Game #923463728: Table Civic Center - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 11:01:15 ET - 2006/08/22
Seat 2: angusteala ($6.45)
Seat 3: railwayman63 ($11.20)
Seat 4: james bluffett ($7.15)
Seat 5: B4DMAN ($10.75)
Seat 6: Oasis123 ($18.40)
Seat 7: twoccs ($4)
Seat 8: isomasa ($3.90)
Seat 9: MrStaxx_1 ($10.45)
angusteala posts the small blind of $0.05
railwayman63 posts the big blind of $0.10
twoccs posts $0.10
isomasa posts a dead small blind of $0.05
isomasa posts $0.10
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Oasis123 [Jd Js]
james bluffett calls $0.10
Stolichnaya21 sits down
Stolichnaya21 adds $10
B4DMAN raises to $1
Oasis123 calls $1
twoccs folds
isomasa folds
MrStaxx_1 folds
angusteala folds
railwayman63 folds
james bluffett folds
*** FLOP *** [Td Ks 9h]
B4DMAN bets $1.40
Oasis123 calls $1.40
*** TURN *** [Td Ks 9h] [7c]
B4DMAN bets $5.30
Oasis123 has 15 seconds left to act
Oasis123 folds
Uncalled bet of $5.30 returned to B4DMAN
B4DMAN mucks
B4DMAN wins the pot ($4.80)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.30 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Td Ks 9h 7c]
Seat 2: angusteala (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: railwayman63 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: james bluffett folded before the Flop
Seat 5: B4DMAN collected ($4.80), mucked
Seat 6: Oasis123 folded on the Turn
Seat 7: twoccs folded before the Flop
Seat 8: isomasa folded before the Flop
Seat 9: MrStaxx_1 (button) didn't bet (folded)
If you could explain the method you use then that would be great, I find it hard to calculate odds quickly at the table so any tips will be appreciated.
Cheers.
Full Tilt Poker Game #923463728: Table Civic Center - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 11:01:15 ET - 2006/08/22
Seat 2: angusteala ($6.45)
Seat 3: railwayman63 ($11.20)
Seat 4: james bluffett ($7.15)
Seat 5: B4DMAN ($10.75)
Seat 6: Oasis123 ($18.40)
Seat 7: twoccs ($4)
Seat 8: isomasa ($3.90)
Seat 9: MrStaxx_1 ($10.45)
angusteala posts the small blind of $0.05
railwayman63 posts the big blind of $0.10
twoccs posts $0.10
isomasa posts a dead small blind of $0.05
isomasa posts $0.10
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Oasis123 [Jd Js]
james bluffett calls $0.10
Stolichnaya21 sits down
Stolichnaya21 adds $10
B4DMAN raises to $1
Oasis123 calls $1
twoccs folds
isomasa folds
MrStaxx_1 folds
angusteala folds
railwayman63 folds
james bluffett folds
*** FLOP *** [Td Ks 9h]
B4DMAN bets $1.40
Oasis123 calls $1.40
*** TURN *** [Td Ks 9h] [7c]
B4DMAN bets $5.30
Oasis123 has 15 seconds left to act
Oasis123 folds
Uncalled bet of $5.30 returned to B4DMAN
B4DMAN mucks
B4DMAN wins the pot ($4.80)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.30 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Td Ks 9h 7c]
Seat 2: angusteala (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: railwayman63 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: james bluffett folded before the Flop
Seat 5: B4DMAN collected ($4.80), mucked
Seat 6: Oasis123 folded on the Turn
Seat 7: twoccs folded before the Flop
Seat 8: isomasa folded before the Flop
Seat 9: MrStaxx_1 (button) didn't bet (folded)
If you could explain the method you use then that would be great, I find it hard to calculate odds quickly at the table so any tips will be appreciated.
Cheers.
- Oasis
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Well, I think it was a good fold since he was betting a bit more than the pot and you could potentially only have 4 outs (the 4 Queens). You don't even know if your Jacks are outs as he could have a hand like KQ.
And as part of your last question on how to do the odds quickly during the hand. Well, I'm not the greatest at that, butwhat I do is round the pot to the nearest dollar, then I round the bet to the nearest dollar. So instead of $4.80 in the pot, I would round that to $5. And instead of a $5.30 bet, I would round that down to $5.00. It is not 100% accurate, but it gives you a rough idea of where you are at. How does that sound?
And as part of your last question on how to do the odds quickly during the hand. Well, I'm not the greatest at that, butwhat I do is round the pot to the nearest dollar, then I round the bet to the nearest dollar. So instead of $4.80 in the pot, I would round that to $5. And instead of a $5.30 bet, I would round that down to $5.00. It is not 100% accurate, but it gives you a rough idea of where you are at. How does that sound?
- aaronw
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- Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
quick & dirty analysis
pot is $4.80
bet is 5.30
total pot then is now $10.10
little under 2:1 on the pot odds
you have 8 outs to make straight, any 8 or q.
8/46 unseen cards = 17% to catch your straight
this is roughly 5.5 to 1
my way of guestimating this is to take my outs times 10. devide unseen cards into that. To me, its easier math
8x10=80 clearly 46 won't go into 80 twice, close but not quite, so roughly 16 or 17 by estimation. Take this 80/'# of unseen cards', on the river its 46 so 80/46= about 17. Take this result as a percentage to catch your cards. 17%. To calc the ratio, I go by 20% is 5-1. 25% is 4-1, 33% is 3-1 and 10% is 10-1. Here we have 17%, so not quite 20%, or slightly mor e than 5-1. I guess it to be around 5.5 to 1 to catch your hand vs 2-1 pot odds.
clearly not getting odds to call.
pot is $4.80
bet is 5.30
total pot then is now $10.10
little under 2:1 on the pot odds
you have 8 outs to make straight, any 8 or q.
8/46 unseen cards = 17% to catch your straight
this is roughly 5.5 to 1
my way of guestimating this is to take my outs times 10. devide unseen cards into that. To me, its easier math
8x10=80 clearly 46 won't go into 80 twice, close but not quite, so roughly 16 or 17 by estimation. Take this 80/'# of unseen cards', on the river its 46 so 80/46= about 17. Take this result as a percentage to catch your cards. 17%. To calc the ratio, I go by 20% is 5-1. 25% is 4-1, 33% is 3-1 and 10% is 10-1. Here we have 17%, so not quite 20%, or slightly mor e than 5-1. I guess it to be around 5.5 to 1 to catch your hand vs 2-1 pot odds.
clearly not getting odds to call.
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