Omaha; any advice?

[zeroswarm]

After a few weeks of bad beats, bad luck and sheer bad play I've decided I need a break from hold em. Instead I thought I'd try out omaha high. It looks interesting but I have no experience of playing it.
Has anyone played it much and if so could u give me any advice on the best strategy? Any hints on the best way to play it would be appreciated.

[Soup_dog]

I learned everything I need to know about Omaha by watching "Wild Kingdom" back in the 70's.

[zeroswarm]

Never heard of wild kingdom.....

One thing I really want to know about is starting hands. I have read that AA KK double suited is the best hand but u only get it once in a blue moon...

What kind of starting hands should I be looking for? Any1 got a list or something??

[weirdofreek]

try this
http://www.texasholdem-poker.com/forum/ ... omaha-help

[Soup_dog]

Well... I just started to play Omaha but have been having some decent luck. I will try to limp if I have a medium pair or 3 to a str8. If I have 4 to a straight or some high pairs or high suited I will usually raise. But that might not be what the experts recommend.

[twofotisx]

4 to a straight might actually be harmfull... not sure but since you have to use two cards from your hand the fact that 2 cards for your main draw (assuming you've got rainbow cards) might be bad for you. I love playing omaha for fun but I don't think my skill in omaha is anywhere near my Holdem skills. Also I find that it takes me a few hands to change "gears" going from Holdem to Omaha, so initially it takes me a few hands to settle in if i've just gotten finished playing holdem.

[Soup_dog]

The reason I say 4 to a str8 is that it's easy to get cards around them to fill in a str8. If you flop 3 cards that are in the range of your hole cards, usually you can cobble together a str8.

[Nut Flush]

4 to a straight might actually be harmfull...

Bad Omaha advice right there, 4 connectors can be a very profitable hand in Omaha. Especially if they are big cards as well, hands like TJQK, AQJT, 9TJQ. And add another bonus if they're double suited.

Low connectors also play pretty well, stuff like 2345 and 5678 since it's a pretty well disguised hand. These play much better from late position though whereas the big connectors mentioned above can easily open the pot with a raise from EP.

[zeroswarm]

4 to a straight might actually be harmfull...

Bad Omaha advice right there, 4 connectors can be a very profitable hand in Omaha. Especially if they are big cards as well, hands like TJQK, AQJT, 9TJQ. And add another bonus if they're double suited.

Low connectors also play pretty well, stuff like 2345 and 5678 since it's a pretty well disguised hand. These play much better from late position though whereas the big connectors mentioned above can easily open the pot with a raise from EP.

I've just read something giving similar advice so I guess Nut flush knows his stuff: to an extent at least..
I'm playing as I type and doing ok. I'm up about 10 dollars but in all honesty I haven't a clue what I'm doing. I'm playing tight as a ducks ass and have managed 2 win a couple of hands.
Anyhow, keep the advice coming..... :D

[suitedaces84]

Use two from your hand and three from the board.

Thank you, thank you, my book will be available to the public shortly.

[Nut Flush]

I like to assign my Omaha hands "points" from 1-6 and go from there. 5 and 6 point hands I'll raise from any position, 3 and 4 point from mid-late and rarely ever play a 1 or 2 point hand unless checked to me in the BB.

You get four cards, let's lable them ABCD. What you want is your hand to have the most possible combinations of working togther to make a hand, and with 4 cards, the most possible hands you can make is 6: AB, AC, AD, BC, BD, CD. Yes, it's that simple :D Mind you this is low limit online Omaha, but you don't need to get fancy to make money.

Here's some examples:
A K Q J

AB = Ace King suited
AC = Ace Queen offsuit
AC = Ace Jack offsuit
BC = King Queen offsuit
BD = King Jack offsuit
CD = Queen Jack suited

That's what I refer to as a 6 pointer and the pot should be raised.

Here's another:

9 9 3 K

AB = pair of nines
AC = 93o otherwise know as crap
AD = K9o, also crap
BC = 93o, still crap
BD = K9o, more crap for the pile
CD = K3o, cherry on top for the crap

This is a typical 1 pointer that your typical poor Omaha player won't hesitate calling a raise with because "hey, I have a pair and just might hit a set." Not only is this crap, but notice how AC and BC are the same, as weell as AD and BD. Your hand is narrowed from 6 possibilties down to 4!

It's also possible to have a 6 pointer made from low cards, but these I only play in late position or try to limp in early if it's a weak table that doesn't raise much preflop. Use your own discretion with the lower connectors.

The 1 pointer above, by all means check the flop if it's your BB and hope for a set and take it from there. Any heavy betting and dump it.

Best advice is just be patient and play. The more hands you see, the more you will notice the differences between Hold Em and Omaha. Don't overvalue your pocket Aces if the other two cards don't fit the hand as well.

There are other point systems out there but for simplicity sake and the fact Party Poker $25 PLO games are pretty weak, this count works just fine.

Damn you and your Omaha questions , now I want to start playing it again!

[Soup_dog]

4 to a straight might actually be harmfull...

Bad Omaha advice right there, 4 connectors can be a very profitable hand in Omaha. Especially if they are big cards as well, hands like TJQK, AQJT, 9TJQ. And add another bonus if they're double suited.

Low connectors also play pretty well, stuff like 2345 and 5678 since it's a pretty well disguised hand. These play much better from late position though whereas the big connectors mentioned above can easily open the pot with a raise from EP.

I've just read something giving similar advice so I guess Nut flush knows his stuff: to an extent at least..
I'm playing as I type and doing ok. I'm up about 10 dollars but in all honesty I haven't a clue what I'm doing. I'm playing tight as a ducks ass and have managed 2 win a couple of hands.
Anyhow, keep the advice coming..... :D

Oh sure! I say it first but you give Nutflush all the credit!!!

[zeroswarm]

4 to a straight might actually be harmfull...

Bad Omaha advice right there, 4 connectors can be a very profitable hand in Omaha. Especially if they are big cards as well, hands like TJQK, AQJT, 9TJQ. And add another bonus if they're double suited.

Low connectors also play pretty well, stuff like 2345 and 5678 since it's a pretty well disguised hand. These play much better from late position though whereas the big connectors mentioned above can easily open the pot with a raise from EP.

I've just read something giving similar advice so I guess Nut flush knows his stuff: to an extent at least..
I'm playing as I type and doing ok. I'm up about 10 dollars but in all honesty I haven't a clue what I'm doing. I'm playing tight as a ducks ass and have managed 2 win a couple of hands.
Anyhow, keep the advice coming..... :D

Oh sure! I say it first but you give Nutflush all the credit!!!

Did I do u an injustice, dog? Sry m8, no offense intended.....

[supafrey]

this is omaha hi, i'm assuming? I have some tips but I'm sure nobody would give them credit

[Phil14312]

Don't think you have to raise with AAxx. In fact, I almost never raise unless I have a real good hand, AAKQ double-suited. Or AAxx where xx is a pair. If you always raise with AAxx, you are advertising your cards.

Remember, double-paired hands will flop a set almost 1/4 of the time.