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One big mess from start to finish

Postby jimmer » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:28 pm GMT

I know there is a lot wrong with this hand. Please could someone talk me through it informing me of my mistakes and possible corrections for next time.

thanks


PokerStars Game #21838643805: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/11/07 15:41:09 ET
Table 'Kerstin II' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Lorenzo6tr ($50 in chips)
Seat 2: Mr. Iceman82 ($62.15 in chips)
Seat 3: SuckatGolf2 ($46.80 in chips)
Seat 4: jbdb3 ($47.50 in chips)
Seat 5: LenVill ($30 in chips)
Seat 8: Combsy53 ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 9: biagio1 ($43.35 in chips)
jbdb3: posts small blind $0.25
LenVill: posts big blind $0.50
megamix69: sits out
canalla18: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jbdb3 [7d 9c]
Combsy53: folds
biagio1: calls $0.50
Lorenzo6tr: calls $0.50
Mr. Iceman82: calls $0.50
SuckatGolf2: calls $0.50
jbdb3: calls $0.25
LenVill: checks
*** FLOP *** [7c Jc 9h]
jbdb3: checks
LenVill: checks
biagio1: bets $1.50
Lorenzo6tr: folds
Mr. Iceman82: folds
SuckatGolf2: calls $1.50
jbdb3: raises $4.50 to $6
LenVill: folds
biagio1: calls $4.50
SuckatGolf2: calls $4.50
*** TURN *** [7c Jc 9h] [5d]
jbdb3: checks
biagio1: bets $20
SuckatGolf2: folds
jbdb3: ???
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Re: One big mess from start to finish

Postby PLOCH » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:35 pm GMT

jimmer wrote:I know there is a lot wrong with this hand. Please could someone talk me through it informing me of my mistakes and possible corrections for next time.

thanks


PokerStars Game #21838643805: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/11/07 15:41:09 ET
Table 'Kerstin II' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Lorenzo6tr ($50 in chips)
Seat 2: Mr. Iceman82 ($62.15 in chips)
Seat 3: SuckatGolf2 ($46.80 in chips)
Seat 4: jbdb3 ($47.50 in chips)
Seat 5: LenVill ($30 in chips)
Seat 8: Combsy53 ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 9: biagio1 ($43.35 in chips)
jbdb3: posts small blind $0.25
LenVill: posts big blind $0.50
megamix69: sits out
canalla18: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jbdb3 [7d 9c]
Combsy53: folds
biagio1: calls $0.50
Lorenzo6tr: calls $0.50
Mr. Iceman82: calls $0.50
SuckatGolf2: calls $0.50
jbdb3: calls $0.25
LenVill: checks
*** FLOP *** [7c Jc 9h]
jbdb3: checks
LenVill: checks
biagio1: bets $1.50
Lorenzo6tr: folds
Mr. Iceman82: folds
SuckatGolf2: calls $1.50
jbdb3: raises $4.50 to $6
LenVill: folds
biagio1: calls $4.50
SuckatGolf2: calls $4.50
*** TURN *** [7c Jc 9h] [5d]
jbdb3: checks
biagio1: bets $20
SuckatGolf2: folds
jbdb3: ???

Why are you playing 79 off suit in SB to begin with? Unless he's got JJ push allin after flop.
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Postby kingetje » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:50 pm GMT

just bet out on the flop. its not that bad to CR but you dont want to CR then have an ugly card come on the turn with you being potstuck. just lead out

now that you DID CR, why are you checking this turn? this turn is a great card for our hand so just keep betting. it sure doesnt look like anyone who called your flop raise has you beat so jam the turn!
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Postby jimmer » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:05 pm GMT

kingetje wrote:now that you DID CR, why are you checking this turn?
with two players calling my CR, I'm worried I'm losing to trips. With one caller, I would of lead out, but I just got the feeling something wasn't right.-Bad mistake huh?
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Re: One big mess from start to finish

Postby jimmer » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:07 pm GMT

PLOCH wrote:Why are you playing 79 off suit in SB to begin with?
11-1 odds.
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Postby kingetje » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:16 pm GMT

yes. there are only really 2 sets possible (JJ raises preflop, probably 99 too)

and more importantly, wouldnt they raise a set on this very drawy board???
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Postby jimmer » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:25 pm GMT

kingetje wrote:and more importantly, wouldnt they raise a set on this very drawy board???
Yeah, you are right. Good point.
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Postby xDiamond_CutteRx » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:23 pm GMT

100 BB deep, I'm pretty comfortable getting it in when I flop two pair.

Shove the turn IMO.
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:37 am GMT

ya just shove the turn, now that u checked, shove the turn

also im not so sure about preflop
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Postby JohnnyCache » Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:57 pm GMT

one would think someone with 99 or jj would have made some sort of tiny pre-flop bump, and 55 would have been shut out by all the action. j 9 is the loon spoiler hand here and, well, whaddya gonna do?

The second check is pointless, really - you announced strength by check-raising, so anyone with a brain is going to either give you no more action or try to take the baton away.
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Postby Jauron » Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:27 am GMT

JohnnyCache wrote:
The second check is pointless, really - you announced strength by check-raising, so anyone with a brain is going to either give you no more action or try to take the baton away.


I agree. You got your bet (best case when checking turn) get it in.

IMO prelop is terrible if you are considering folding here.
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Postby UrAteUp » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:26 pm GMT

kingetje wrote:yes. there are only really 2 sets possible (JJ raises preflop, probably 99 too)

and more importantly, wouldnt they raise a set on this very drawy board???


3rd possible set you forgot about. This one would explain limping into a pot...(drum roll)....77.

One other possible hand I might put villian on here would be J9. Many people often limp into a pot with gappers.

What to do if your Jimmer in his spot?...I can agree with DC to a point but I think most times your shipping your chips over to the lucky villian bastard that caught a set or a higher two pair.
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Postby odlozilik » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:14 pm GMT

I think pf isn't bad, I would rather fold K2 here, 79 can hit the str8.
I like check/raise too, by leading out with so many players in the pot we risk there will be too many callers.
Getting 2 callers might be tricky, I would say we are ahead about 50% of the time. If those players like to slowplay, even less.
I would lead the turn, as played, it's a coinflip.
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