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OOP w AK: Check, check, raise?

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OOP w AK: Check, check, raise?

Postby ErinJeff » Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:56 pm GMT

No previous history or reads with villain. I didn't 3bet pre- because I wanted to re-eval the flop OOP here, and I don't know my oppo.

Obviously, the best hand I beat is trip Qs and AQ or KQ are possible raising hands. QJ and QT I lose, but they are the best for a raise beyond the steal? A flush is always a possibility, so do I take the chance or muck this?

Call here, raise?

PokerStars Game #18246164513: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/06/19 - 16:52:56 (ET)
Table 'Datura' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: dannyboi_08 ($52.95 in chips)
Seat 2: turquoise ($55.45 in chips)
Seat 3: lepsyl ($52.80 in chips)
Seat 4: ErinJeff ($50 in chips)
Seat 5: jtsnyc47 ($110 in chips)
Seat 6: Skromodie ($46.60 in chips)
Seat 7: Mikey Stacks ($13.15 in chips)
Seat 8: ahnong60 ($86.80 in chips)
Seat 9: chienvichai ($47 in chips)
ErinJeff: posts small blind $0.25
jtsnyc47: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ErinJeff [Ac Kd]
Skromodie: folds
Mikey Stacks: folds
ahnong60: raises $1.50 to $2
chienvichai: folds
dannyboi_08: folds
turquoise: folds
lepsyl: folds
ErinJeff: calls $1.75
jtsnyc47: folds
*** FLOP *** [Th Qs Qh]
ErinJeff: checks
ahnong60: checks
*** TURN *** [Th Qs Qh] [7d]
ErinJeff: checks
ahnong60: checks
*** RIVER *** [Th Qs Qh 7d] [Jh]
ErinJeff: bets $4
ahnong60: raises $7 to $11
ErinJeff: ??
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Postby Ensano » Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:04 pm GMT

crying call... it's a set here enough times... 2.78:1
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Postby ErinJeff » Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:12 pm GMT

Thanks. How do you figure the 2.78:1? I mean what's that based on?
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Postby odlozilik » Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:01 pm GMT

Ensano wrote:crying call... it's a set here enough times... 2.78:1

I think this explanation is quite confusing. Did you mean the set (boat) or just trips? I think it's not possible to count exactly the probability of trips (and anything else), you probably put some range into pokerstove, but that's far from being exact.
I would probably call too, at least to know, what he has. :)
Oh, didn't he have royal?
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Postby Felting » Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:30 pm GMT

3bet preflop
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Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:13 am GMT

this is really a fold ur like ahead never
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Postby Ensano » Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:43 am GMT

2.78 is the pot odds you'e getting.. sorry... really didn't explain that well
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Postby Jernej Zorec » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:21 am GMT

unless u have a v good read its a fold imo

the way it was played he either hit the flush or had a boat
i just dont belive he would slowplay trips and then when every draw possible hits he would raise , would have to be a pretty stupid player
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Postby Kemics » Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:50 pm GMT

if he's aggressive he could be comming back over the top with atc.

JJ is going to c-bet this flop.
Qx isnt going to let you draw.

Only hand he's slow playing here is QQ.

but i think A :heart: k :heart: is the only hand that makes any sense other than a bluff.
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Postby ErinJeff » Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:06 pm GMT

Ding, ding, ding.

Slow played quads have it. Thanks for the advice. His river raise (and no history) made me think enough of a chance he has a Q, and not the FH or flush. I was right!

ErinJeff: calls $7
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ahnong60: shows [Qc Qd] (four of a kind, Queens)
ErinJeff: mucks hand
ahnong60 collected $25.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $26.50 | Rake $1.30
Board [Th Qs Qh 7d Jh]
Seat 1: dannyboi_08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: turquoise folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: lepsyl (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ErinJeff (small blind) mucked [Ac Kd]
Seat 5: jtsnyc47 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Skromodie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Mikey Stacks folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ahnong60 showed [Qc Qd] and won ($25.20) with four of a kind, Queens
Seat 9: chienvichai folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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