Outs and percentage

[Yoggy]

In this fine website there are som good tips on how to improve your play in the game of poker.
Now there is no doubt about the fact that the different odds in poker are very important to know when you are to figure out what to do next.

This web site explains how to calculate your outs into percentage.
It says that to figure out how big the chanse of catching your card on the turn or river you should devide your outs with the amount of cards left in the deck.
How ever this is tru, it is not the simplest math to calculate in your head if you are new to the game.

So as I started to play i looked for other ways to do this.

Here is what I've learnd form another player a while back,
and i think if you only know the erlier metioned way to make your Outs into percent, you will use this instead.

You dont need to know how many cards there is in the deck.
You only need to know how many percent there is on one out.
And since there are 52 cards in a deck one out is whort a little more than 2 percent.

Now your in a game and you got Ace of spades and king of dimonds in the pocket. and you see the flop which is king of clubs, eight of spades and three of hearts.
So now you got the over pair with the best possible kicker. A pretty good hand, but you want to know how big the chanse is of getting a set of kings on the turn

So you want an other king.

Well you alredy have two kings so you only have two outs.

So one out = 2% So two outs = a bit more than 4 % if you want the combined percentage for the turn and river. well thats two chanses of another king so 4 * 2 = 8 = 8%

This works you can check the charts right here on this website.

Since this is a rough way of counting you shuold ad one extra percent to the result when counting whit higher outs than seven, sice there is a bit more than two percent on each out.

That's all
Hope I've helped someone.

Any one is wellcome to critesise this info or disscus other ways to simplefy the math of odds

see ya in the lifelong game of poker.

[Lunkan]

This method actually works most of the time. But it is never 100% accurate and in some cases it will give you completely wrong results.

Say you flop a flush draw, open ended straight draw and you have two overcards.

That is 21 outs if I am counting correctly (9 outs for flush, 8 outs for straight minus those who will give you a flush and 6 outs for top pair). According to your metod your chance will be: 21 * 2 * 2 = 84%

Mathematically correct, your chance is: 1 - (the chance of not hitting any of your outs on the turn * the chance of not hitting on the river) = 1 - (26/47)*(25/46) = 0,70 = 70%

That is quite a big difference between 84% and 70%. But in most cases it will work and be easier than the mathematically correct method. My suggestion is to remember the odds for the most common draws and then use your simple method in other cases. If you are good at maths, you can use the advanced method, or if you play internet poker, you could use a calculator (I think that would be a bit improper in live games though).