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Overpair facing aggression

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Overpair facing aggression

Postby MasterMike » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:31 pm GMT

PokerStars Game #47352892609: Tournament #295726458, $6.00+$0.60 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2010/07/27 16:27:55 ET
Table '295726458 1' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: CountryLuke (3740 in chips)
Seat 4: buckfutter1 (2470 in chips)
Seat 6: tigger64 (2790 in chips)
CountryLuke: posts small blind 50
buckfutter1: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to buckfutter1 [7s 7c]
tigger64: folds
CountryLuke: raises 100 to 200
buckfutter1: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [6s 3s 2c]
CountryLuke: bets 300
buckfutter1: raises 400 to 700
CountryLuke: calls 400
*** TURN *** [6s 3s 2c] [2d]
CountryLuke: bets 500
buckfutter1: calls 500
*** RIVER *** [6s 3s 2c 2d] [6d]
CountryLuke: bets 1000

should i have shoved after the turn? give me the word
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Re: Overpair facing aggression

Postby SDPokerDude » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:25 am GMT

This is a sit-n-go?

You have 25 BBs, with position in a battle of the blinds.

77 is good, but do you really wan to play it? By calling pre, you learn nothing about his hand. He could have been putting pressure on the BB, he could have been playing a real hand. You have no idea.

I like to push back here. Kick it up to 600 total. If he calls, you are in a race. If he pushes back, you MAY be dead to a higher pair. He folds, you just picked up an easy 200 chips (8% of your stack).

BUT, you just called, so on to the flop...

He bet, no info there, it is just a c-bet. I like the idea of a re-raise, but to get any real info with this board, you need to bet pot+ to put the pressure on him (kick it to about 1K or a pot raise). If you have a bad feeling, a smooth call may be a better play if you do not want to hang your tourney on this hand.

His call tells you that he has SOMETHING. Unfortunately, just about anything could have called there (if he was bluffing pre, he likes the flop; if he had 2 overs, he will call most anything). Again, you have very little info about his hand. Your re-raise was not enough to make him think.

The turn pretty much forces you to hold on for a ride, and hope he checks down. Nothing on this board will scare him if he had legit (AT, KQ, etc) overs and if he was bluffing, than at WORST he is on a st draw. He aint going anywhere.

With the river showing 2 pr on the board, you are in a HORRIBLE spot with your small over pair. You have committed 1100 (about 40% of your stack) and you never made the other player think, even though you had position on him the whole time. Unfortunately, I think you HAVE to call his bet and hope he had a KT or something like that.
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Re: Overpair facing aggression

Postby Felting » Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:41 pm GMT

He had A2
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Re: Overpair facing aggression

Postby miaowmiaowchowface » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:31 pm GMT

haha
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Re: Overpair facing aggression

Postby BeerWench13 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:54 am GMT

should i have shoved after the turn? give me the word

Re-raise preflop, push on the flop. If you would like my reasoning behind these, just ask.
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Re: Overpair facing aggression

Postby Golden Holden » Wed May 25, 2011 3:55 pm GMT

I'm with SDpokerdude and beerwench... You should have played this more aggressively.

You're playing three-handed, and its open-raised from the small blind... and the raise is a min-raise. What range of hands does your opponent have when he does this? If he's like most opponents, he probably has a very wide range of hands. Whats the reasoning behind calling preflop instead of raising? Are you trying to trap him with your 77? Not many boards will come that give you an overpair, and even when they do (like the example), what lesser hands are going to be willing to stack off against you?

In the example, your preflop call built a pot of 4 big blinds, and you still have 23 big blinds left. Your stack to pot ratio is about 6. This means you can be all in with just a bet and then an oversized all-in. If you are not committed to going all-in on this flop, why are you in the hand?

If your opponent will c-bet this flop a very large percentage of the time (and most would), you can assume their range of hands is very similar to what they would min-raise you with from the small blind. Again, for most opponents, this is a very wide range of hands, most of which completely whiffed on this pot. You are most likely facing two overcards.

When your opponent bet 300 on the flop, into the 400 pot, this created a $700 pot. Your raise of $400 more offered pot odds of 11 to 4 or about 2.75 to 1. Those odds aren't terrible if for someone with overcards and they many players will continue to call with a single pair. This is well and good for you, but consider that you also still have money behind. Consider this board. What cards can come on the turn that you will be happy to call your opponents all in bet with? My guess would be only a 7. The 2 isn't really that bad a card for you, either. You just got unlucky there, but you could have saved yourself the trouble of facing negative implied odds if you had reraised preflop, and committed to going all-in on the flop.
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