Paulson's JB vs NJ clay

[Vu]

I am still deciding on which set to buy. Such a difficult choice.

Which is a better chip overall if price is not an issue?
If the price is the same, which is a better buy?

[circlencircle]

I am still deciding on which set to buy. Such a difficult choice.

Which is a better chip overall if price is not an issue?
If the price is the same, which is a better buy?

Most people will say straight out that Paulson is better but really they are completely different chips, you should get samples and decide for yourself, they are just too different. I bought the new Paulsons myself though and Ten's are going to be even better if you ask me.

[yeltzen]

NJ pros:
- Really well done and unique design; each chip has a different number of edgespots and color schemes.
- Extremely hard to damage.
- Much better looking mold; not a constant advertisement for the company.

NJ cons:
- Lighter than a true clay casino chips, though heavier than other Blue Chips.
- Don't sound as good as a Paulson, though if you've never handled a Paulson the sound of the NJ wouldn't bother you.
- A little too slick in my experience. They stack fine but when you bump them the stack tumbles easily.


Paulson pros:
- Sound like clay chips are supposed to sound.
- "Stickier" than NJs (although they are getting slicker and slicker the more I shuffle them)
- Correct weight; same as a casino chip.
- They're Paulsons.

Paulson cons:
- An endless list of design problems; small inlays, weird plastic coating over the inlay; ugly "PAULSON CHIPS" mold, all chips use the same edgespot scheme with different colors (unlike the original Paulson JBs which used a very cool and unique scheme).
- Colors rub off on each other way more than they should.


Overall, the Pualson CHIP itself is better than the NJ (Blue Chip co) chip in terms of sound and weight. If you played with them and had your eyes closed, there would be no contest. But, we all need to see our cards and chips, and there's too many design problems with the Paulsons for me to pick them over the NJs. The NJs are great chips. It's not like you're picking all design vs. all feel. You're picking very good feel and great design vs. good design and unbelievable feel.

In terms of handling, I think they both handle great. I love shuffling and stacking both of them.

[jojobinks]

i mostly agree with yeltzen except:

i go jb. the feel issue is enough for me. NJ's are slick, and they don't get much better. the paulsons smooth out, but are still the stickiest of all my samples.

the weight and feel send me jb's way. the NJ's look fine, but they don't do it for me.

btw; the paulson mold doesn't bother me; at least no more than the fact that NJ's are a constant ad for NJ.

[R Deckard]

Well, from breakbeat46's post in this thread it seems that there are other significant problems with the NJs: non-uniform thicknesses across denoms and "unflat" chips. These issues alone made the NJs a no-go in my book, esp. for "premium clay" prices. I took one look at that picture of the stacks and that killed the NJs for me. And "unflat" chips, wtf? Totally unacceptable, IMHO.

As for the Paulson "weird plastic coating over the inlay": what's so weird about having a thick layer of clear plastic over the inlay label to protect it? All casino Paulsons have the label protected like this. Or maybe you're talking about the shiny appearance of the clay between the label and the raised edge molding--if you rub this area firmly with the edge of the white chip, you'll see that the color is transferred to the white chip, proving that it is bare clay (and of course, "soft").

[yeltzen]

It would have been a shorter post if you just listed what you agreed with me on.

[bubbafry]

I only have samples of the NJ clays, but I wonder about the quality control as well. The inlays look a little warped on my samples like this:



Also, the Paulson JB's don't look bad IMO (obviously subjective), and I'm also not sure what he's referring to about the "weird plastic". The colors don't really rub off on each other with shuffling (I don't see any color marks on any of my samples) but they definitely get much dirtier than the NJ clays. I agree with buying samples and seeing for yourself what you like best, since look and feel are so subjective. Keep in mind that the home Paulsons will have a new mold and design coming out in mid-April. You might want to wait till then to make a decision.

[ncskiier]

yeah, just a little warped

[yeltzen]

My balls itch.

[breakbeat46]

When the chips are on the table, you cant see the gap.

For me it comes down to the 'looks'. I really dont like the new paulson looks. I like differnet edgesopt colors and an appealing inlay design. If the new paulsons had those qualities then hands down I would buy them. For now its a PC/MAC PEPSI/COKE BUD/COORS debate where if you want a 'perfect' chip your gonna shell out big bucks for them, such as the retired paulson dunes chips.

[vai777]

how many of the warped chips have you come across

[breakbeat46]

I wouldnt say they are 'warped'. It's more like they have more or less material in certain spots of the chp that make them 'uneven' when stacked. If you look at a 'warped' chip and layed it flat on a table you wouldnt be able to see any 'warping' . That is a pciture of 80 chips and only one is 'imperfect'. I dont care to check 500 chips for this. Besides when I'm playing I have other things to looks for rather than imperfections in my opppenents chip stack.

[breakbeat46]

One other thing.

Another factor for me is how easy it would be to add or replace chips in my set. For instance I now want low den chips for cash games. I can now buy the .25/.50/1.00/5.00 nj clays that on sale. If I bought wonderful old paulsons, I would be pretty screwed if I wanted to get other den. The same goes for lost/broken/stolen chips.

[vai777]

true its just odd that the chips would have a quality control prob like that, I mean inlays not being perfectly centered is one thing but chips that seem to have areas that are scalloped is crazy.

let hope the 500 that I ordered dont have too many with this prob

[breakbeat46]

Well thats the complaint about blue chip but I dont plan on collecting these chips or hoping they appreciate. I hope they are used and abused.