Playing KK Preflop Late in a MTT

[lwestatbus]

I'd appreciate your advice on how I played this hand. I'll lay it out and then explain my reasoning (I was actually thinking this time--you just need to tell me how well).

It is pretty late in today's 2:00 Stars 500 FPP satellite to the Sunday Millions. Blinds are up to $300/$600 and there are 55 players left of 360 starting and 11 seats to be won. I have about 13,000 chips which I believe was 2 or 3 times the chip average, maybe even higher. I had just been moved to a new table and the hand in question was my first so no reads at all. I was the third chip stack at the table but there were five stacks within a thousand of mine. The player to my left (hereafter referred to as the Angel of Death) had exactly 120 more chips than I did. I came to the table in the seat between the button and the small blind. When the hand in progress concludes I become the cutoff.

I am dealt K-K and the table folds around to me. Button has 120 chips more than I do and SB and BB have in the 2,000-3,000 chip stack range. I raised to 4 x BB (2,400) and button reraises to 4,800. Both blinds fold, I went all in and he calls and shows pocket aces. No redraw for me and I went out.

Here's what I was thinking: The blinds and antes were worth picking up and I was torn between not wanting an ace or small pocket pair to draw and not really minding getting some action on the kings, possibly even one of the blinds going all in with a desperation hand. That accounts for the size of my initial raise. When villain reraised I thought that he had a good hand, didn't know me, and put me on a blind steal. I also thought that I wasn't laying down the hand and that unless an Ace flopped I was going to be all in anyway so it may as well be now. I also considered the possibility that he had aces and decided if he did I was screwed and could maybe draw out on him. So in I went.

Any thoughts?

[Jauron]

Your raise was fine, your push was fine. The only time we get to start thinking about maybe passing is when it's down to 12 players since we don't care about getting first just 11th or better.

You need the kind of read that isn't reasonable to have to lay this down in the spot you were in.

[supafrey]

lol folding kk pre.

[HalfSugar]

lol folding kk pre.

Satellite to big game. 10 places pay the same seat. 11 players left. One guy has a 10,000 chips, you and 9 others have 100,000 chips each. Fold ftw.

[tame_deuces]

OP isn't talking about folding, he is asking what is the best option of calling or raising all-in.

[Ensano]

hmmm... from experience when a player thinks you're stealing the blinds and reraises you... if you call you're 90% of the time gona see a large cbet on the flop no matter what he has...

i think with a monster hand and knowing that you will get a loose bet like this would be a really good reason to just call the reraise... not to mention it looks so weak preflop...

[MrDarling]

In a normal MTT there is benefits in being tricky with K's PF and just calling a 3Bet. However in Satellite close to the bubble I wouldn't want to risk it and will play it as straight forward as possible.

btw, I was also busted out of a live satellite with K's. Really, really aggressive guy sitting to my left. It's folded to me in the SB and I already see him in the BB holding chips ready to raise. So I limp/push and of course he calls 2/3 of his chips with A4s and out draw me (234J5 board).

[Muck]

I’m happy with all of this. The biggest factor that’s influencing me here is the “payoutâ€

[supafrey]

Calling with KK pre in a satellite with this many people left is a lot like folding it pre.

[Jefecaminador]

lol folding kk pre.

Satellite to big game. 10 places pay the same seat. 11 players left. One guy has a 10,000 chips, you and 9 others have 100,000 chips each. Fold ftw.

Not everyone gets this. I was on the bubble in a satellite to some big tourny. 60 seats available, I was 3rd in chips or something like that. Had about twice as many chips as the next guy at my table so i decided to go all in with any hand just to see what happens. Guy with a decent stack thinks about it for awhile then calls with KK. I end up sucking out on him and hes bye-bye. Guy ends up cursing me out, and i tell him hes an idiot for calling. I dont think anyone at the table understood why.

Unfortunately we were in hand for hand play and a lower chip stack busted out too so he ended up making the money.

[Muck]

I remember reading that post

...wait a minute I've just realised how pointless this reply is. It's not post pad honest.

Ummmmmm.

LOL, LOL, LOL, :D :D

Fold pre-flop.

There pulled it back.