PLO Study Group

[MrDarling]

yeah, if you're last to act its almost not that bad, but not closing the action its pretty bad.
Do you chase gut or other weak draws when you don't close the action in NL?

Anyway back to limping, if you raise and get called in 3 places of course its not the ideal situation. But you still raise AAxx, right? this hand is much worse facing multi opponent, and since you don't raise much, people will know you have AAxx every time you raise and are able to play perfectly against you. I much rather have 5678 when I face multi opponent in raise pot then AAxx...

I think we do have to vary our play according to our opponent, but am still not sure that limping a long, even in the micro's is the best approach.

[crack]

I am not open limping everything. I am going to raise a few hands in CO and button and in EP perhaps some T+ 4 card hands. It depends how deep I am if I raise AAxx. I don't think it's right to be raising it without some decent sidecards if you are deep and will probably just limp and hope I get the chance to put in a big reraise for 1/2 my chips.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

what about open limping in teh first 3 spots of fullring- thoughts.

I think openlimping is weak cause of holdem background obv, but it makes a lot of sense if some hands cannot handle 3bets.

[MrDarling]

First, I have no idea about Fullring. I just think you need to play much more tighter PF then 6max.

Yeah open limping because you fear 3B is an option, but am not sure its profitable.
Have started to watch some PLO video's again and the really GOOD players never open limp (though they do limp along sometimes)

The thing is we do have to adjust to the games we play. In the lower levels, if you raise a lot you will get 3+ callers every time you raise. But people will rarely 3bet you lite and they will stack liter.

I remember when I was playing with a maniac, a guy who opened every hand and cbet almost every pot. i was just sitting there telling my self I'll get him when I hit. However by the time I got a hand big enough he was either smart enough to fold to my resistance or he was freerolling vs me (ie chasing his weakish draws with our money).

[crack]

Nah I think I am still fine with open limping even in full ring. The problem is, in the low stakes games PL200 and lower you just seem to get called far too much to generally open raise, then you have to contend with playing the hand OOP.

Perhaps the good players are not open limping, but then they are not constantly playing PL50 day in and day out.

[crack]

Meh, it might be bad advice because I'm really not experienced in this game but at the smaller games I don't see what open raising is really going to achieve apart from mixing ones game up and with a super strong hand.

[golddog]

I wonder if we can get Carson to add a new forum for Omaha, it looks like there's quite a bit of interest, rather than one thread.

[xDiamond_CutteRx]

I'm at least starting a new topic tonight or tomorrow specifically to discuss preflop raising and 3-betting vs. limping and calling in PLO.

[Biowza]

Wow, long time no post.

Yeah I've started playing some 25 PLO on Full Tilt. I'm actually doing pretty well at it. Pretty much what I've been doing is trying to see as many cheap flops as I can. I don't think open limping is that bad for low limit PLO, I've been doing it a bit and it has been paying off so far. Of course at higher limits I can imagine that you would be punished.

I might post up some hands a bit later on.