Pocket 8's facing an all-in and call

[jimmer]

$4.40 seater sng 31 players left. j.a.r.125 has just arrived at the table so I have no info about him.


PokerStars Game #34458023559: Tournament #206538431, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2009/10/24 20:21:22 ET
Table '206538431 10' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: kabobkl (1332 in chips)
Seat 2: GoldenWorks (2736 in chips)
Seat 3: willtéo (9040 in chips)
Seat 4: Pougertiton (13846 in chips)
Seat 5: marttt1970 (9240 in chips)
Seat 6: j.a.r.125 (14323 in chips)
Seat 7: LeapOfFaith1 (863 in chips)
Seat 8: jbdb3 (7623 in chips)
Seat 9: unsungjoe (4793 in chips)
kabobkl: posts the ante 25
GoldenWorks: posts the ante 25
willtéo: posts the ante 25
Pougertiton: posts the ante 25
marttt1970: posts the ante 25
j.a.r.125: posts the ante 25
LeapOfFaith1: posts the ante 25
jbdb3: posts the ante 25
unsungjoe: posts the ante 25
jbdb3: posts small blind 125
unsungjoe: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jbdb3 [8s 8c]
kabobkl: raises 1057 to 1307 and is all-in
GoldenWorks: folds
willtéo: folds
Pougertiton: folds
marttt1970: folds
j.a.r.125 calls 1307
LeapOfFaith1: folds
jbdb3: ???

[Jernej Zorec]

i probably just call and try to get to showdown
if i had a bit shorter stack i would shove

[HalfSugar]

I'm with jern here. I'd call, hope to spike an 8 but otherwise hope that jar would check down and not bet the dead side pot without the nuts.

As a caveat, if I knew jar really well and had him pegged as a moron capable of betting the dead side with nothing, I might release.

[golddog]

Don't forget to think about how likely unsungjoe is to do something behind you. Also, I'm not sure how many get paid here; are you close to the money, or is this a mid-game scenario?

That being said, I go with the others. jar could have a big hand he's slowplaying, or be calling with complete rags because it's such a small percentage of his stack, but the most likely scenario seems like he's got enough to call such a short (to him) bet, but he's not overly proud of it. Maybe a weak ace, two high-ish cards, or a small pair. I think his range is really wide, but centered around the mid-to-high level connectors.

Even though you're likely ahead, because we have no experience with him, I think the more cautious play is in order.

Then take almost half his stack when you flop a set.

[HalfSugar]

Also, I'm not sure how many get paid here; are you close to the money, or is this a mid-game scenario?

$4.40 Stars SnG with 31 left must mean top 18 paid out of 180 starters. 10-18 is something like $8.64 from memory, first is $216.

[jimmer]

$4.40 Stars SnG with 31 left must mean top 18 paid out of 180 starters. 10-18 is something like $8.64 from memory, first is $216.

Correct

[golddog]

Not directly related to this post, but something more in general for learning MTTs I thought of last night. After a tournament, I like to review while things are kind of fresh in my mind. What hands did I play well, what hands did I screw up, that kind of thing.

I especially focus on the hand(s) that killed me. Note that these are often not the hands which knock you out, but rather the hands that hurt your stack quite a bit.

So, think about the normal stuff: did I get involved in a bad spot, could I have gotten away once I was involved, should I have been more aggressive in the hand, whatever.

Sometimes the answer is, I just got unlucky. But most of the time, the answer is, looking back, I see what I missed/ignored, and (hopefully) can learn from that.

[miaowmiaowchowface]

if ur going for a mincash or whatever, just call. I'd expect to be good here most of the time vs a rando in a 4$ so i just stick it in