Pocket AA

[charp]

Well was just playing a freeze out on Party (only 9 bucks) top 25 get entry into $200 event.

Finished 50th/546 after losing a 8000 chip pot raising someone for all their chips. My AA got called with A8o. Lost to a boat 8s over 4.

Got moved to a different table preflop raiser to 1200, one caller. I go all in for 7000 chips with AA from the BB. Get called by 1 player...pocket 7s and lose to a straight. All within 20 minutes. Then the guy starts laughing about it..jerk.

Anyway, just wanted to vent. I guess if you don't call all in with AA you don't get busted with AA. But I still think its the right play in both situation. Anyone that would have played it different?

[wEbMaStEr]

depends on how the play went, but if as i think you're saying both ppl were raised all in..... thats all you can do, its down to the poker gods after that.
AA is not the nuts, it is merely the best possible starting hand, and as such should always be raised with.
doesn't always work tho and yeah it sux when best start loses

[nicthestick]

Vs A8o, was all the money in preflop? if so, put that fella on your "buddy list" and sit with him as much as possible. That is the kind of goof that you want to call you when you hold the vowels. however, if you let him see a cheap flop and beat you, No Sympathy. As far as AA vs 77, it sucks, but it happens. It happend to me the other night in the casino. In sitting right next to this old cowbow who keeps chasing every flush and straight to the river, and showing ne his every hand. Cool. I get AA I raise. Everyone folds to him, he calls. flop is 3s 4d jd. HE bets, I raise, he calls. 9c. He checks, I bet he calls. River is the 5h. Possible straight, but no flush out there. HE bets, i reraise, he reraises...... SHIT..... I call he flips 55 Oh well I got it back inside an hour. AA is not unbeatable, only the best starting hand.

[brewcam]

Playing multi-table tourny on party last night (20 buy in) with about 480 players. Down to about 200, I have about 1300 TC (average is about 2200 at this point). I have been getting NO CARDS since my first few hands...i've been getting like 57o etc. Anyway, I get AA UTG. Blinds are 50 and 100. I don't want to freak anybody, so I raise to 200. The guy to my left (chip leader) calls, the guy to his left calls, and the guy to his left goes all in. Ok, everybody folds around to me and I call. The guy to my left calls and the guy to his left calls. So we have four all-in and I'm thinking I will end up with 5200 chips which ought to get me to the final table. Yee haw.

Cards are flipped over. The other hands are QQ, 99, and AK (against my AA). I'm feeling pretty good. I'm not worried about 2 Ks coming up so I figure the whole table has only four outs to beat me (2 9's and 2 Q's). Flop is nothing (rainbow rags), turn is nothing (another rag), and the river is....a Q!!!!!!! (#)*$)#(&#(*%&#(*&%$)@#$*((@)

That's poker.

[CamBam]

Well, if this couldn't happen...we wouldn't play poker anymore...

The times I've beat a better hand at the river is very satisfying..pat on the back for reading the odds, the tells, etc. and the guts to stay in

This is where skill, luck, and courage all blend in to make the game, THE GAME

Sux tho to bust out of a tournement w/ 2 great hands....maybe next time you're the winner and not the victim

Good luck.....(hope I'm not your next victim)

[kingking]

Since we are sharing...Friday I was playing a $10 Multi Table tourney about 40 people and it was down to about 20 people and I was about 10th overall not doing to bad.. I was dealt AA about 4-5th position and I have about $1700 in chips 3 limpers in front of me so I bet $250 all folded to guy on button who has about $1900 in chips and he goes all in. I have AA but I dont want to risk all of my chips in this tourney but with AA i have to do it.. The guy has AQ os (i guess he thought I would fold) well i was in a great postion until he get 4 hearts that matched his Qh and he gets a flush to my pp.

I have lost with AA before but this one hurt because I wanted to place in this tourney and I felt I was playing good poker. By the way the guy came in 3rd..

It's off my chest I feel better.. Thanks for listening

[ballbp]

With AA you have to get your chips in the pot. I think you made the right call. I understand what you're saying about wanting to finish in the money but with AA you were in a good position to double up. You just got outdrawn. What a game eh?

[Absolution]

I don't see many good situations to go all-in preflop with 2+ people. AA isn't anything special when you are facing down 3 other people.

Take Brewcam's example. He raised UTG in a loose game and then got two callers followed by an all-in. He has to figure one of the others will go all-in as well. When you got 3 callers like (4 total) that, it basically becomes a coin flop for you. You are ahead of them individually, but about equal to them all (and if you get even more than that you are actually a dog to them).

Unless I want to play a coinflip (i.e. late in the tournament and I'm short or I'm up big against a few weak stacks), it's doubtful that I'll go all-in preflop unless I'm almost sure it will be heads-up. Don't get married to hands preflop (or anywhere) in a game like that. Now, in a tighter game they can really become valuable. You can start limping and slowplaying them.

Charp and kingking made the right calls though. Lucky fools, that's poker, etc... Heck, Moneymaker won the WSOP only because of dumb luck taking down aces with a 2-outer. If he lost that 88 vs AA hand I guarantee he didn't win. That guy who raised you all-in kingking was especially dumb in my opinion. He should have reraised you if anything, especially since you were showing strength in an earlier position.

CamBam: I actually hate winning by luck myself. It probably means I made the wrong call. Good poker players are always trying to minimize luck.

[kingking]

I wish the guy would have only re-raised me (for obvious reasons). It's amazing that the guy risked all of his chips (1 hours worth of work) with AQ os. If he continues to do that in the long run he will get burned more often than not...

Oh well next time hopefully I will be telling you about my river win that gave me a first place finish in a multi table tourney...

until then ......

[Absolution]

That's what always gets me. I'll be 1.5 hours+ into a big multiway tournament and think, okay, most people here are good players now and won't make stupid calls. Ya, never make that assumption. It's how I go out of almost every tournament. You start to loosen up a bit and try some bluffs. Nope, it's the same as if it was 1 minute in. You can make it very far in a multiway tournament on pure luck obviously. Heck, one freeroll tournament Ninja was watching me and I had to go so I just went on hella tilt. I called two all-ins with just pocket 9s first hand and tripled up. Then I got dealt aces I think and doubled again. I was the chip leader within 5 minutes and wasn't even trying.