pokerroom sit & go's
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pokerroom sit & go's
Hi, first post here.
quick question about pokerroom... Unfortunately I have a mac so it seems to be my only option.
Anyway, I've played about 20 10+1 limit sng's and am constantly running into the following situation:
Me: AA, cap betting pre flop
Flop: 4 9 Q rainbow, I bet, raised back, I call
turn: 10, I bet, raised back, I call
river: 3, I check, bet back, I call
opponent: 9, 10
I encounter this at least once every tournament, and find myself losing large pots and sacrificing chip position.
Do I need to move in limits or what? Am I just having bad luck and in the long run I will turn it around, or do I need to adjust my play?
Also: Great Forum! I have been a daily lurker until now. Thanks
quick question about pokerroom... Unfortunately I have a mac so it seems to be my only option.
Anyway, I've played about 20 10+1 limit sng's and am constantly running into the following situation:
Me: AA, cap betting pre flop
Flop: 4 9 Q rainbow, I bet, raised back, I call
turn: 10, I bet, raised back, I call
river: 3, I check, bet back, I call
opponent: 9, 10
I encounter this at least once every tournament, and find myself losing large pots and sacrificing chip position.
Do I need to move in limits or what? Am I just having bad luck and in the long run I will turn it around, or do I need to adjust my play?
Also: Great Forum! I have been a daily lurker until now. Thanks
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gabemeezy - Posts: 7
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I like the $20+$2 at pokerroom. I'm don't think the play is all that much better but you don't see as many people calling with junk. Of course there still are plenty of bad beats but hey that's the game. Stick around and don't switch your play. The guys drawing will lose in the long run.
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ballbp - Posts: 1007
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I guess I would have raised/re-raised before flop and on flop to let him know/think you had at least QQ or better. Maybe then he would have folded. If he still raised you after the turn I probably would have folded thinking he had trips or 2 pair....I don't "usually" go all the way with AA in that situation unless I'm the raiser he the caller (or hopefully folder).
Maybe I give too much respect, but usually that's earned. If he was playing (and raising) to the river with weaker hands all night I may have gone all the way. Other than that...nah, pitch them in. Was this a trend for him? Seems there is more of that type of play in limit games too. Imagine if it were NL, and you raised heavy b4 or on flop...he probably would have tossed'em in.
Just my opinion...
Maybe I give too much respect, but usually that's earned. If he was playing (and raising) to the river with weaker hands all night I may have gone all the way. Other than that...nah, pitch them in. Was this a trend for him? Seems there is more of that type of play in limit games too. Imagine if it were NL, and you raised heavy b4 or on flop...he probably would have tossed'em in.
Just my opinion...
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PuckJunkieNY - Posts: 762
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I guess my thinking was,
If he called the capped betting pre flop, and raises my bet on the flop, why reraise if I am not going to get him out...
Having experienced this kind of situation so frequently, I have started to change my betting as to minimize my losses. I can't help it. since i posted I played another sng and lost two big pots, one in which 24 hit runner runner to make a straight over my three As, and the other (which bounced me off the table) in which my top pair jacks also is drawn out runner runner to the 2-6 straight.
Basically I can't get any table respect, even though I play extremely tight. But I keep reading posters talk about how it is so easy to take the money of players who are not playing properly. My experience is that if the table is made up of those players, it is true that they will not consistently win, but they will prevent me from winning with anything except the absolute nuts.
Perhaps in no limit this is not the case, since you can threaten more convincingly early on...
If he called the capped betting pre flop, and raises my bet on the flop, why reraise if I am not going to get him out...
Having experienced this kind of situation so frequently, I have started to change my betting as to minimize my losses. I can't help it. since i posted I played another sng and lost two big pots, one in which 24 hit runner runner to make a straight over my three As, and the other (which bounced me off the table) in which my top pair jacks also is drawn out runner runner to the 2-6 straight.
Basically I can't get any table respect, even though I play extremely tight. But I keep reading posters talk about how it is so easy to take the money of players who are not playing properly. My experience is that if the table is made up of those players, it is true that they will not consistently win, but they will prevent me from winning with anything except the absolute nuts.
Perhaps in no limit this is not the case, since you can threaten more convincingly early on...
Last edited by gabemeezy on Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:16 pm GMT, edited 1 time in total.
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gabemeezy - Posts: 7
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gabemeezy wrote:Having experienced this kind of situation so frequently, I have started to change my betting as to minimize my losses. I can't help it.
Ouch, we all know this one, don't do it, in the long run u will clean up. You shouldn't let trends change ur style if u know that ur style works on paper which it sounds like urs does
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HalfSugar - King Moderator
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That sucks man....Maybe a string of bad luck and not much else.
Your last point...you meant No Limit i assume.
If so, yes I agree.
When I play limit I rarely go past flop unless I have best or sometimes 2nd best possible hand, because of too many people in to riv and no respect of raises. Although if I'm up big at table I will ride out choice moderate (on occassion) hands with a decent # of outs. More times than not though it lessen's my total at walk away time (note to self...Be more disciplined, less greedy). :D
Your last point...you meant No Limit i assume.
If so, yes I agree.
When I play limit I rarely go past flop unless I have best or sometimes 2nd best possible hand, because of too many people in to riv and no respect of raises. Although if I'm up big at table I will ride out choice moderate (on occassion) hands with a decent # of outs. More times than not though it lessen's my total at walk away time (note to self...Be more disciplined, less greedy). :D
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PuckJunkieNY - Posts: 762
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I'm just curious as to how you placed in those tournaments you played. Are you winning first at least once? Placing out of the money?
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General Sal - Posts: 1657
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It's strange that this happens to you every tournament, i don't really think you played it wrong, nothing you can do, gotta bet the snake eyes, that's jmho tho.
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BigBlobOToothpaste - Posts: 28
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of the 21 tournaments, I don't have the numbers in front of me at work, but think it's something like this:
1st: 1
2nd: 2
3rd: 3
4th: 5 (the worst finish of all, of course this is my most frequent result)
5th: 3
6th: 3
7th: 1
8th: 0
9th: 2
10: 1
I placed in the $ in three of the first 5 and was obviously very happy, but now I seem to be spiraling downwards.
1st: 1
2nd: 2
3rd: 3
4th: 5 (the worst finish of all, of course this is my most frequent result)
5th: 3
6th: 3
7th: 1
8th: 0
9th: 2
10: 1
I placed in the $ in three of the first 5 and was obviously very happy, but now I seem to be spiraling downwards.
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gabemeezy - Posts: 7
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My suggestion, would be to skate through once you're in the #4 position, as long as you aren't the shortstack. By this, I don't mean fold pocket aces, I just mean pass up the vast majority of the hands you are given. If the buy-in is low, chances are someone will try to double up and lose, or the shortstack will be taken out by the blinds.
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BigBlobOToothpaste - Posts: 28
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